Viva Vivaldi!

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kishnevi

Quote from: SonicMan46 on April 08, 2015, 08:50:22 AM
While I was reading some of the reviews on the Daniel Smith performances, a discussion of 'flicking' on the modern bassoon came up in 2005 (assume when these recordings were first released?) in the Classical Music Guide Forum, and might interest some of us 'windy music' fans -  :laugh:

But, last night I listen to the Smith recordings off Spotify (iPad plugged into my den stereo system) - I thought that the sound was rather good and cannot say I noticed any harsh transitions in his playing (according to the link above, he is a 'non-flicker') - Dave :)

I listened to the last CD of the set tonight, and heard no flatulence. The recording dates ranged from 1984 to 1990.

Karl Henning

I defy anyone to listen to a Vivaldi bassoon concerto without smiling.

(Well, unless there's "flicking" . . . .)
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Boston MA
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: karlhenning on April 28, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
I defy anyone to listen to a Vivaldi bassoon concerto without smiling.

There are some slow movements, though, where crying (as in unbearable sadness, i mean) would be more appropriate.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: karlhenning on April 28, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
I defy anyone to listen to a Vivaldi bassoon concerto without smiling.

(Well, unless there's "flicking" . . . .)

Actually, 'flicking' makes me smile too, probably for other reasons. :)

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: SonicMan46 on April 08, 2015, 08:50:22 AM
Classical Music Guide Forum

Thanks, Dave, for reminding me why I stopped going there. The discussion was interesting, but the snobbiness level was appalling! I remember most of those folks pretty well, they knew their stuff, but it was hard to handle getting it out of them. :-\

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Moonfish

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 28, 2015, 11:28:54 AM
Thanks, Dave, for reminding me why I stopped going there. The discussion was interesting, but the snobbiness level was appalling! I remember most of those folks pretty well, they knew their stuff, but it was hard to handle getting it out of them. :-\

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Hmm, yes, that is why I came to GMG in the first place. You guys are so much nicer!   ::) 0:)
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Ken B

Quote from: Moonfish on April 28, 2015, 03:45:39 PM
Hmm, yes, that is why I came to GMG in the first place. You guys are so much nicer!   ::) 0:)

Well, we don't know as much!
:laugh:

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Moonfish on April 28, 2015, 03:45:39 PM
Hmm, yes, that is why I came to GMG in the first place. You guys are so much nicer!   ::) 0:)

Well, I don't now about that. Depends how much blood is in the water, I suppose; sometimes, you just need a bigger boat!  :)

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Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Brahmsian

Major Vivaldi binge.  41 concertos over the past week or so.  :)  High enjoyment!!

Karl Henning

Vivaldi binges are seductively easy to fall into.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

SonicMan46

Quote from: ChamberNut on August 01, 2015, 08:40:32 AM
Major Vivaldi binge.  41 concertos over the past week or so.  :)  High enjoyment!!

Hey - know what you mean - earlier this year I added 2 of those Naive 6-disc concerto boxes!  Dave :)

Mookalafalas

Recently bought

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Mostly on Harry's recommendation. 

I put in the first three discs, and enjoyed them, but as they are all the concertos, it makes sense they would eventually start to pall, and they sorta kinda did... I have a 5 disc player, so after they played, a couple of other discs played, and then the Vivaldi started over again.  This is normally when I leap up to put in the next 5 hours of classical heaven.  But I didn't. I couldn't.  When the Vivaldi started playing again it was even better than the first time. 
   Stravinsky said something like "Vivaldi wrote the same concerto 50 times".  But, not for the first time, I think Stravinsky was a fuckin' idiot ;D
It's all good...

North Star

Quote from: Mookalafalas on November 03, 2015, 03:00:51 AM
   Stravinsky said something like "Vivaldi wrote the same concerto 50 times".  But, not for the first time, I think Stravinsky was a fuckin' idiot ;D
I am tempted to come over there and bash a couple of tables with your head, but instead I'll just point out that a lot of Vivaldi's music was only discovered much after Stravinsky said that.
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Mookalafalas

Quote from: North Star on November 03, 2015, 03:34:24 AM
I am tempted to come over there and bash a couple of tables with your head, but instead I'll just point out that a lot of Vivaldi's music was only discovered much after Stravinsky said that.

  Stravinsky would have had little opportunity to hear virtually any of Vivaldi's music.  It still was a infamously false claim to make. 
   I actually am a big fan of Stravinsky's music, but Stravinsky the man said and did a lot of stupid things. 
It's all good...

North Star

Quote from: Mookalafalas on November 03, 2015, 04:24:13 AMStravinsky the man said and did a lot of stupid things.
That is most certainly true, and he was appallingly opportunistic.
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Karl Henning

Happily, we can just enjoy every note that both Vivaldi and Игорь Фëдорович wrote!

(And, maybe, be thankful that, if Vivaldi said anything stupid about his fellow musicians, it hasn't come down to the 21st century  0:)  8)  )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

North Star

Quote from: karlhenning on November 03, 2015, 05:03:27 AM
Happily, we can just enjoy every note that both Vivaldi and Игорь Фëдорович wrote!

(And, maybe, be thankful that, if Vivaldi said anything stupid about his fellow musicians, it hasn't come down to the 21st century  0:)  8)  )
Hear, hear.
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Que

#478
Cross post from the listening thead:

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Upon relistening this, these are superb performances and heartily recommended to any Vivaldian!.:)
Off course there will be overlap with the Naive Vivaldi series - some great performances there by L'Astree under GiorgioTabacco.
But these hold their ground all the same. Less polished though, for those who like an improvisatory, "rough and ready" feel - wonderfully spirited. :)
This is also an option if you don't want to splash out on the Naive series, since this is at bargain price.

Q

Jo498

I cannot compare the RV numbers now but Giardino Armonico recorded 4 discs for Teldec, presumeably with all? concerti da camera which have been re-issued several times and should be affordable. (There was also an earlier disc for some italian label (probably Nuova era) re-issued by Brilliant in a 3-disc Vivaldi collection.) These are among my favorite Vivaldi recordings.
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