Haydn's Haus

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Scion7

Papa Haydn might have had to use the teaching-ruler on that jumping-bean upstart.  SWWAAATTTT!  "Show some decorum, young one."
Saint-Saëns, who predicted to Charles Lecocq in 1901: 'That fellow Ravel seems to me to be destined for a serious future.'

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Scion7 on January 18, 2016, 10:00:42 AM
Papa Haydn might have had to use the teaching-ruler on that jumping-bean upstart.  SWWAAATTTT!  "Show some decorum, young one."

:D

A proper cellist has his feet on the floor at all times...  >:(

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Gurn Blanston

The symphonies were easy to deal with compared to the rest of the music of 1791! It just could get confusing, I needed to get a Handel on it all!  :)

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Gurn Blanston

I've always felt that Haydn's Doctorate was somehow underrated as the accomplishment it really was. So I looked at it this week, see what I came up with. :)

Dr. Haydn, I presume?

Thanks!
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Karl Henning

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on January 24, 2016, 11:07:40 AM
I've always felt that Haydn's Doctorate was somehow underrated as the accomplishment it really was. So I looked at it this week, see what I came up with. :)

Dr. Haydn, I presume?

Thanks!
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Looking forward to this, when the day's dust has settled  :)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

After the paucity of information about Haydn's earlier life, it is stunning in its way to see so much accounted for. I couldn't fit it all into one essay! Have a look at some of the things I found this time!

Mad dogs and Englishmen??

Thanks,
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Gurn Blanston

The end of 1791 brought Haydn to new heights of social success, but meanwhile, back in Vienna, a great tragedy was playing itself out. See what I found this time.

Posterity will not see such a talent again in 100 years

Check it out!
Thanks,
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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on January 24, 2016, 11:07:40 AM
I've always felt that Haydn's Doctorate was somehow underrated as the accomplishment it really was. So I looked at it this week, see what I came up with. :)

Dr. Haydn, I presume?

I knew he received a doctorate from Oxford but had never before read the details. Most interesting, Gurn. Thanks. Listening to you know what as a consequence  ;)


Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on February 07, 2016, 05:19:19 AM
I knew he received a doctorate from Oxford but had never before read the details. Most interesting, Gurn. Thanks. Listening to you know what as a consequence  ;)


Sarge

Thanks, Sarge, glad you liked it. That was one I enjoyed writing more than most. Not just for the honor involved, but because I got to learn something about a fairly obscure subject. :)

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Camphy

#10449
During a couple of weeks available for online listening:



http://www.radio4.nl/plaatpaal/506/haydn-il-pomo-doro-

Well, only the second disc, it seems; i.e. Symphony no. 83 "La Poule", Keyboard Fantasy in C Major, Keyboard Concerto no. 11 & Keyboard Concerto no. 6 with violin and strings.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Camphy on February 07, 2016, 08:14:40 AM
During a couple of weeks available for online listening:



http://www.radio4.nl/plaatpaal/506/haydn-il-pomo-doro-

Well, only the second disc, it seems; i.e. Symphony no. 83 "La Poule", Keyboard Fantasy in C Major, Keyboard Concerto no. 11 & Keyboard Concerto no. 6 with violin and strings.

And your opinion was...  ?  ??

I need to find and order it now?   :)

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Camphy

#10451
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on February 07, 2016, 08:30:08 AM
And your opinion was...  ?  ??

I need to find and order it now?   :)

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Weren't you already interested in it, Gurn? You ARE able to access the site, aren't you? I've only listened to the Keyboard Fantasy so far; will listen to more soon.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Camphy on February 07, 2016, 08:36:37 AM
Weren't you already interested in it, Gurn? You ARE able to access the site, aren't you? I've only listened to the Keyboard Fantasy so far; will listen to more soon.

Yes, when you posted it some time ago. You hadn't heard it yet. The only place I've found so far which actually has the physical media is Presto, which ordering from Europe isn't my first choice. Otherwise, no, I don't stream music, my satellite broadband doesn't like it, so I wait till I can find the disks somewhere. :)

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Camphy

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on February 07, 2016, 08:44:47 AM
Yes, when you posted it some time ago. You hadn't heard it yet. The only place I've found so far which actually has the physical media is Presto, which ordering from Europe isn't my first choice. Otherwise, no, I don't stream music, my satellite broadband doesn't like it, so I wait till I can find the disks somewhere. :)

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Ah, I didn't think of that; I'll try to post something when I've listened to it. The harpsichord in the Keyboard Fantasy sounded excellent.  :)

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Camphy on February 07, 2016, 08:53:42 AM
Ah, I didn't think of that; I'll try to post something when I've listened to it. The harpsichord in the Keyboard Fantasy sounded excellent.  :)

Cool. There weren't a lot of harpsichords still around by 1789, but certainly there were some, I like the idea of some later works on one. I'm looking forward to picking this up. I was surprised Amazon UK didn't have it (except as downloads).   :)

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Pat B

Quote from: Camphy on February 07, 2016, 08:53:42 AM
Ah, I didn't think of that; I'll try to post something when I've listened to it. The harpsichord in the Keyboard Fantasy sounded excellent.  :)

The harpsichord has a nice tone, but I wonder about the tuning. Is it supposed to sound like that (a la H17:1 per Gurn's comments)?

I thought the symphony sounded pretty good, also with some shaky intonation but less bothersome here. It is played for intensity and tension, not beauty or thrills, and is not for PI skeptics. I wish I could compare it to Harnoncourt but H isn't on spotify and my CDs are boxed up. Anyway, I expect Gurn will like it. I like it, but probably not enough to buy it.

Camphy


Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Camphy on February 13, 2016, 07:24:35 AM


Delivery by JPC estimated at four weeks.

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/joseph-haydn-symphonien-nr-1-104/hnum/1407818

Ah, good news! As I type this, I am listening to the linchpin of the group, which arrived in my mailbox yesterday afternoon (that can't be a coincidence...) :

So far, so good, very enjoyable sound and tempi. They are a bit faster than some, but when they change pace, it is more dramatically different (as in the 2nd mvmt of #80). If you are really familiar with these works (seriously though, is anyone?) you will say "that's pretty different", but I think this is the point. It is an interesting expression, really. Certainly it bears much more listening. :)

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Camphy

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on February 13, 2016, 08:06:50 AM
Ah, good news! As I type this, I am listening to the linchpin of the group, which arrived in my mailbox yesterday afternoon (that can't be a coincidence...) :

So far, so good, very enjoyable sound and tempi. They are a bit faster than some, but when they change pace, it is more dramatically different (as in the 2nd mvmt of #80). If you are really familiar with these works (seriously though, is anyone?) you will say "that's pretty different", but I think this is the point. It is an interesting expression, really. Certainly it bears much more listening. :)

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Thanks for your comments! I found that recording this afternoon in a local music store and bought it, as I've no intention to acquire the box set. Although the latter does tempt me, I must say.
Not really familiar with these four symphonies; I didn't own any recording of them, but there's a performance of #80 on YouTube by Les Arts Florissants under Jonathan Cohen which I liked. Very much looking forward to listen to this new recording.  :)

Jo498

Yes, I will eventually get the Dantone twofer. Although I am rather pissed that they did not fill it up with the introuvable Hogwood 76+77 (should fit, Goodman has 76-78 on one disc). There is no way I am buying that big box as I have all the Brüggen and about a third of the Hogwood.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
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