Haydn op.76

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Mozart

Everyone must buy this, it has to be the best cd I have ever heard. Anyone know more about this string quartet?


FideLeo

Quote from: HandelHooligan on October 20, 2007, 02:44:51 PM
Everyone must buy this, it has to be the best cd I have ever heard. Anyone know more about this string quartet?



I have had it since it first came out!  Quatuor Mosaiques, despite of their French(ified) name, is largely an Austrian HIP group (the cellist, Christophe Coin, is French), consisting of first desk players from Nikolaus Harnoncourt's ensemble Concentus Musicus Wien.  They specialise in Viennese Classical repertories - Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert - but also records other music from the period: Boccherini, Hyacinthe Jardin etc. 
HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

Mark

Thanks for the heads-up. I thought I owned the Op. 76, but it's Ops. 71 and 74 that I've got. :)

Mozart

Quote from: masolino on October 20, 2007, 04:09:02 PM
I have had it since it first came out!  Quatuor Mosaiques, despite of their French(ified) name, is largely an Austrian HIP group (the cellist, Christophe Coin, is French), consisting of first desk players from Nikolaus Harnoncourt's ensemble Concentus Musicus Wien.  They specialise in Viennese Classical repertories - Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert - but also records other music from the period: Boccherini, Hyacinthe Jardin etc. 

They are amazing, do you know if they happened to have done Mozart's quintets (with a 5th guy?), I would love to see if they can compete with my Salomon quartet recording.

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Thanks for the heads-up. I thought I owned the Op. 76, but it's Ops. 71 and 74 that I've got. Smiley

Buy it :) I'll put a movement up on youtube so you can check it out.
Damn I ripped the cd as m4a...and windows movie maker doesn't support the filetype...


FideLeo

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Quote from: HandelHooligan on October 20, 2007, 08:15:09 PM
They are amazing, do you know if they happened to have done Mozart's quintets (with a 5th guy?), I would love to see if they can compete with my Salomon quartet recording.

They have recorded Mozart's Clarinet Quintet (w/Wolfgang Meyer) but not the ones for strings as far as I know.   In HIP Mozart string quintets, I have had all four late ones recorded by Hausmusik London (Virgin/EMI), but they are eclipsed in K. 515 and 516 by L'Archibudelli (sony) and especially by Ensemble 415 (harmonia mundi, lst violin: Chiara Banchini)   
HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

Peregrine

I never got on with this ensemble, found their playing to be fussy and lethargic. Exceptionally well-recorded though...
Yes, we have no bananas

Lethevich

I am also a QM fan, even in the op.76 where there is a lot of competition. Their slow-ish tempos are quite refreshing for this style, and they are so amazingly refined. The #2 quartet in this set is my favourite by them, the way the main theme is played would make Mozart cry with joy (it sure as hell "flows like oil" :D).
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Kullervo

Quote from: HandelHooligan on October 20, 2007, 09:09:40 PM
Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/G90xWkeM7X0

Thanks, I realize I need to buy this ASAP.

P.S. The girl doesn't spin, does that mean I am mindless?  :(

Mozart

Quote from: Corey on October 21, 2007, 06:04:49 AM
Thanks, I realize I need to buy this ASAP.

P.S. The girl doesn't spin, does that mean I am mindless?  :(


Which foot is on the ground?

val

QuoteHandelHooligan
Everyone must buy this, it has to be the best cd I have ever heard. Anyone know more about this string quartet?


I have this version, and it is very good, perhaps the best. They recorded other Quartets from Haydn, in special the opus 20 and 77. I don't like them very much in the opus 33.



head-case

Quote from: val on October 22, 2007, 12:16:27 AM



I have this version, and it is very good, perhaps the best. They recorded other Quartets from Haydn, in special the opus 20 and 77. I don't like them very much in the opus 33.



What's different in the Opus 33?

val

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What's different in the Opus 33?


In the opus 33 I prefer a version with more dynamic and contrasts. It is one of the most light cycles of Haydn's Quartets. I prefer the Lindsays or even the Weller. As an example: the first theme of the opus 33/3 has much more exuberance with the Lindsays and seems a little pale with the Mosaiques, too heavy.

head-case

Quote from: val on October 23, 2007, 01:12:56 AM

In the opus 33 I prefer a version with more dynamic and contrasts. It is one of the most light cycles of Haydn's Quartets. I prefer the Lindsays or even the Weller. As an example: the first theme of the opus 33/3 has much more exuberance with the Lindsays and seems a little pale with the Mosaiques, too heavy.
Well yes, but you did not answer my question.  You are saying there is another recording of Op 33 that you like better, what I was asking is whether the M. quartet performances of Op 33 are noticeably different than their other Haydn recordings.

val

Quotehead-case

Well yes, but you did not answer my question.  You are saying there is another recording of Op 33 that you like better, what I was asking is whether the M. quartet performances of Op 33 are noticeably different than their other Haydn recordings.

No, the Mosaiques remain the same. But the works of the opus 33 are different. As I said, they are light, more contrasted. The opus 20 is a work still under the influence of the aesthetic of the Sturm und Drang, and the two last opus are already turned to the 19th century, with a greater density of the sound. 

head-case

Quote from: val on October 24, 2007, 12:28:29 AM
No, the Mosaiques remain the same. But the works of the opus 33 are different. As I said, they are light, more contrasted. The opus 20 is a work still under the influence of the aesthetic of the Sturm und Drang, and the two last opus are already turned to the 19th century, with a greater density of the sound. 
I see, thanks.

BachQ

String Quartet Op. 76 N. 2 in D minor ("Fifths") is one of my faves .......  0:)

BorisG

Quote from: val on October 24, 2007, 12:28:29 AM
No, the Mosaiques remain the same. But the works of the opus 33 are different. As I said, they are light, more contrasted. The opus 20 is a work still under the influence of the aesthetic of the Sturm und Drang, and the two last opus are already turned to the 19th century, with a greater density of the sound. 

In Op. 33, I prefer the Coull's less raw intonation and approach.

Archaic Torso of Apollo

After 11 years, it's time to revive this one.

I've been satisfied with the Kodaly, but hearing the Pacifica Quartet play 76/1 a couple weeks ago made me curious about other versions. Recommendations?
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

amw

Takács Quartet (Decca) probably the best, Doric Quartet (Chandos) an alternative choice