Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[28Orot]

Well, if your wife played around, what would you do? Divorce her? Or have her stoned? Or would you live up to your end of the deal, even if you came out the loser. You have no idea what her motives were, you presume much.

I would ask her to please not run for president.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Donald Trump is a baboon, but he is not a racist,

So you agree with my congressman: he's not a racist, but he just says racist things.

[28Orot]

So you agree with my congressman: he's not a racist, but he just says racist things.

Yes he is a dumb idiot, look at the things he said at the Jewish Republican coalition, all the Jewish stereotypes, but no one for a second thought that he is an anti semitic.

[(poco) Sforzando]

No, I don't think that at all. I think it would be just a matter of time before he exploded like Mr. Creosote. But I am wanting to base my vote on something more than my instinctual revulsion for his character. There are plenty of people I don't like who can still do a hell of a job at something. My liking or not liking them or admiring their personality defects is not what governs their competence. If he was able to lay out a solid, positive plan for the country and had a reasonable expectation of implementing it, then I really wouldn't give two shits whether I liked him or not.

I've seen plenty of people who are highly competent despite their disagreeable personalities. I've worked for a number. But with Trump, the policy positions (building a wall, driving out millions of immigrants, excluding Muslims from entry) are not only not "solid, positive" in themselves or capable of implementation, but deeply rooted in the man's character flaws.

[28Orot]

http://www.youtube.com/v/ziwYbVx_-qg

Why would anyone get up for that cipher?

[Parsifal]

The entire Media and his democratic bedfellows stood at his side and supported this indecent human being, so for his wife to come out and have the audacity to run again as president after what her husband did, just shows her wicked and crud personality.

I find the insinuation that a woman should be ashamed and/or shunned because of the actions of her husband to be perverse and despicable. I am not thrilled with Hillary's candidacy, mainly because I think her foreign policy positions are excessively aggressive. I am also not happy with the idea that Bill Clinton, who I am sick to death of hearing about, will be involved in government again. But the fact that she can move forward from difficult situations is an indication of her personal strength, and she is certainly my preference among the choices left to us (Hillary or Trump). I find myself wishing that Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren had run.

Or Colin Powel. Now that would be a fantasy come true.

[Ken B]

I find the insinuation that a woman should be ashamed and/or shunned because of the actions of her husband to be perverse and despicable. I am not thrilled with Hillary's candidacy, mainly because I think her foreign policy positions are excessively aggressive. I am also not happy with the idea that Bill Clinton, who I am sick to death of hearing about, will be involved in government again. But the fact that she can move forward from difficult situations is an indication of her personal strength, and she is certainly my preference among the choices left to us (Hillary or Trump). I find myself wishing that Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren had run.

Or Colin Powel. Now that would be a fantasy come true.

For months I have been saying that if Hillary is indicted the dems should draft Biden. He'd win big, carried along on a huge collective sigh of relief. It's sad to think where we've reached the point of "maybe Biden will rescue us", but we have. 

[Gurn Blanston]

I've seen plenty of people who are highly competent despite their disagreeable personalities. I've worked for a number. But with Trump, the policy positions (building a wall, driving out millions of immigrants, excluding Muslims from entry) are not only not "solid, positive" in themselves or capable of implementation, but deeply rooted in the man's character flaws.

You are right, if it is all true. If it is merely (highly successful) rhetoric intended to garner him enough attention to stomp his opponents, then it is not really something to judge by. I'm not disagreeing with you, whether it is rhetoric or his actual position, he clearly has pathological character defects. But if that's what it takes to successfully become POTUS these days, well, there is always New Zealand...

[28Orot]

I find the insinuation that a woman should be ashamed and/or shunned because of the actions of her husband to be perverse and despicable. I am not thrilled with Hillary's candidacy, mainly because I think her foreign policy positions are excessively aggressive. I am also not happy with the idea that Bill Clinton, who I am sick to death of hearing about, will be involved in government again. But the fact that she can move forward from difficult situations is an indication of her personal strength, and she is certainly my preference among the choices left to us (Hillary or Trump). I find myself wishing that Joe Biden or Elizabeth Warren had run.

Or Colin Powel. Now that would be a fantasy come true.

I would say the same thing if it was Hillary who cheated and her husband ran for president. Normal people would like to return to private life after the entire world witnessed their disgraceful actions. But, ignoring all that and seeking the office of the presidency regardless, renders them to be completely desensitized to everything we hold dear, and everything we value.

[Gurn Blanston]

Why would anyone get up for that cipher?

Typically of a staunch moralist who is paranoid about prejudice aimed at himself, you are the first to condemn someone else, someone who is far more worthy of respect than some I might name.



and not just white supremacy either, eh?

[28Orot]

Typically of a staunch moralist who is paranoid about prejudice aimed at himself, you are the first to condemn someone else, someone who is far more worthy of respect than some I might name.



and not just white supremacy either, eh?

So you're saying that I said that because he is black?

His skin color has nothing to do with the fact that he has been the worst president in the history of our country.

[28Orot]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/6492/who-will-be-more-corrupt-hillary-or-trump-hillary-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=060616-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

[Gurn Blanston]

So you're saying that I said that because he is black?

His skin color has nothing to do with the fact that he has been the worst president in the history of our country.

That's your opinion. Much of it based (by a thousand things you have said) on his failure to get into bed with Israel and actually talk to Arabs. It isn't MY opinion. I think he has done some things that were long overdue. I favor health care reform. I favor rapprochement with Cuba. I favor 10 million + new jobs. I favor a lot of things he has accomplished, and I would have favored a whole bunch of things that Congress wouldn't allow to happen. I admire that he used executive powers to make things happen because no one had the political will to do things they all agreed needed done. And if you hate him for it, then it makes me that much happier.

Do YOU hate him because he is black? Probably not. Not being Jewish and maybe having a little Muslim in his background is plenty of reason for you to hate him. I can live with that.

[Ken B]

Typically of a staunch moralist who is paranoid about prejudice aimed at himself, you are the first to condemn someone else, someone who is far more worthy of respect than some I might name.



and not just white supremacy either, eh?

Another low in this thread. It's a low because it implies criticizing Obama can only be a sign of racism.  It is a low because it use fatuous collective terms like "the right".

[Ken B]

. Not being Jewish and maybe having a little Muslim in his background is plenty of reason for you to hate him. I can live with that.

I am reporting this to the moderators. Another moderator please. One I can respect.

[kishnevi]

That's your opinion. Much of it based (by a thousand things you have said) on his failure to get into bed with Israel and actually talk to Arabs. It isn't MY opinion. I think he has done some things that were long overdue. I favor health care reform. I favor rapprochement with Cuba. I favor 10 million + new jobs. I favor a lot of things he has accomplished, and I would have favored a whole bunch of things that Congress wouldn't allow to happen. I admire that he used executive powers to make things happen because no one had the political will to do things they all agreed needed done. And if you hate him for it, then it makes me that much happier.

Do YOU hate him because he is black? Probably not. Not being Jewish and maybe having a little Muslim in his background is plenty of reason for you to hate him. I can live with that.

I don't hate him, but I think he's been a lousy President,    Lousy on foreign affairs, using executive power whenever he wishes, incompetent at dealing with Congress (the Democrats have actually done a lousy job at showing the country what the partisan obstructionism of the GOP has done to us), narcissistic....

His family background has nothing to do with it.  I'd say the same about an Orthodox Jew who did as badly as he has.

He is, I admit not as as much a narcissist as Trump, but that's a pretty low bar to clear.

[Brian]

His skin color has nothing to do with the fact that he has been the worst president in the history of our country.

The worst presidents in American history are, by general consensus, the failed stretch of presidents immediately before the Civil War (Taylor, Fillmore, Pierce, and Buchanan), the impeached drunk Andrew Johnson, and the scandal-plagued Warren Harding. Some commentators have made arguments for Hoover, Nixon, Grant, and William Henry Harrison, who died after only a month. The genocidal Andrew Jackson is facing a re-assessment of his legacy. Of these, Buchanan is generally considered worst of all, since the country literally split in half during his presidency.

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

I am not thrilled with Hillary's candidacy, mainly because I think her foreign policy positions are excessively aggressive.

I agree, but...

Or Colin Powel. Now that would be a fantasy come true.

Powell was the guy who sold the Iraq war with his BS presentation at the UN on Saddam's non-existent weapons. If you're against aggression, why would you favor him?

[28Orot]

That's your opinion. Much of it based (by a thousand things you have said) on his failure to get into bed with Israel and actually talk to Arabs. It isn't MY opinion. I think he has done some things that were long overdue. I favor health care reform. I favor rapprochement with Cuba. I favor 10 million + new jobs. I favor a lot of things he has accomplished, and I would have favored a whole bunch of things that Congress wouldn't allow to happen. I admire that he used executive powers to make things happen because no one had the political will to do things they all agreed needed done. And if you hate him for it, then it makes me that much happier.

Do YOU hate him because he is black? Probably not. Not being Jewish and maybe having a little Muslim in his background is plenty of reason for you to hate him. I can live with that.

You need to use your imagination a little Gurn.

Lets say your living in a tiny country the size of New Jersey, surrounded by 300 million arabs who want to see you dead, and on top of that you have the arch sponsor of terrorism of our era, Iran, threatening to use nuclear weapons against you and wipe you off the map. Would you agree for a third party to negotiate a 'deal' with those monsters and then force you to accept the results of that deal?

I would assume that you wouldn't go for something like that.

That's what Barak Obama did to Israel and many other allies. You should know, that he also ignored the fears and oppositions of other arab countries who besieged him not to sign that deal.

Iran, is a liar. Its a terrorist devil. And our President signed a deal with the devil. Remember who they refer to as the 'Big Devil', its the United States. For him to do such a thing, which by the way was supported by the left wing radical countries of europe, unsurprisingly is an unforgivable crime against this country and against Israel.

This is only a tip of the iceberg here...

[kishnevi]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/6492/who-will-be-more-corrupt-hillary-or-trump-hillary-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=060616-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

and here is what he wrote a month ago
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5474/5-arguments-voting-trump-and-why-they-fail-ben-shapiro

all of it true today as it was a month ago.