Kaepernick = ISIS

[snyprrr]

There, I feel better now

[TheGSMoeller]

Is #ISitWithKaepernick trending?

[zamyrabyrd]

interesting thought...

[david johnson]

I suppose his pass protection will 'break down' a couple of times.  really rough tackles may be on his horizon

[zamyrabyrd]

http://clashdaily.com/2016/08/kaepernick-not-hates-america-also-converted-religion/

"They are said to be planning a traditional Muslim marriage...Colin's girlfriend, DJ Nessa, introduced him to the teachings of Islam, and he's ready to embrace it fully."

[Madiel]

As I've seen observed several times in recent days, white folk in America tell black folk they ought to protest peacefully, and then go into spasms when a black guy protests peacefully.

[zamyrabyrd]

As I've seen observed several times in recent days, white folk in America tell black folk they ought to protest peacefully, and then go into spasms when a black guy protests peacefully.

Protest what? Having the opportunity to make millions of $'s?
"Colin Kaepernick signed a 6 year, $114,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $12,328,766 signing bonus, $61,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000".
He seems to have little team spirit, a really poor quality for a player.
Black soldiers died in combat for their country.
What a sniveling snot by comparison!

[Madiel]

Protest what? Having the opportunity to make millions of $'s?
"Colin Kaepernick signed a 6 year, $114,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $12,328,766 signing bonus, $61,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000".
He seems to have little team spirit, a really poor quality for a player.
Black soldiers died in combat for their country.
What a sniveling snot by comparison!

Maybe not everything is about the individual. I realise it may be difficult for your worldview to comprehend that not everyone is entirely out for themselves, but it is in fact possible for a rich black person to be upset about the lot of poor black people.

The proposition that a person can't protest suffering unless they personally are suffering is a very bad proposition, because it's designed to ensure that no-one with a voice can speak for the voiceless. It's a proposition designed to stop anyone with influence rocking the boat for those without influence.

[zamyrabyrd]

Maybe not everything is about the individual. I realise it may be difficult for your worldview to comprehend that not everyone is entirely out for themselves, but it is in fact possible for a rich black person to be upset about the lot of poor black people.
The proposition that a person can't protest suffering unless they personally are suffering is a very bad proposition, because it's designed to ensure that no-one with a voice can speak for the voiceless. It's a proposition designed to stop anyone with influence rocking the boat for those without influence.

Good for him! Maybe he can share the wealth with some of his oppressed bro's.

[Madiel]

Sigh. Because it's all about money, of course. 

[Florestan]

In the sixties or seventies of the last century, the socially-conscious, Third-World-friendly French intelligentsia organized a theater festival aimed at raising the audience's awareness of the famine in Africa. Asked for participation, Jean-Louis Barrault declined firmly. Hungry people need bread, not plays about bread!, he told them. Needless to say, he was lambasted by the "progressive", "Left" media.

[Madiel]

In the sixties or seventies of the last century, the socially-conscious, Third-World-friendly French intelligentsia organized a theater festival aimed at raising the audience's awareness of the famine in Africa. Asked for participation, Jean-Louis Barrault declined firmly. Hungry people need bread, not plays about bread!, he told them. Needless to say, he was lambasted by the "progressive", "Left" media.

He's right about what they need. However, is not possible that plays about bread are a means to achieving bread?

Otherwise what's the purpose of any art that seeks to comment on society? No play, novel, painting, concert does anything... beyond affect people's minds.

[Florestan]

He's right about what they need. However, is not possible that plays about bread are a means to achieving bread?

I think his point was that all the money that poured into organizing that festival (and we all know what a French festival means, right?) could have been more wisely and helpfully spent in buying food and distributing it to the hungry.

[Madiel]

I think his point was that all the money that poured into organizing that festival (and we all know what a French festival means, right?) could have been more wisely and helpfully spent in buying food and distributing it to the hungry.

And that is a legitimate point. Cost/benefit analysis and all that.

[snyprrr]

See what a Humanitarian Thread I started?

[zamyrabyrd]

"Nothing says, 'I know nothing about actual oppression,' like proudly wearing a Fidel Castro T-shirt just days after you sat out the national anthem in protest of the oppression of blacks in America. But that's exactly what San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick did during a press conference...The shirt states, "Like Minds Think Alike," and features Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and Malcolm X together.

Sergio J. Sixto, a former prisoner of Castro who now lives in America...took issue with Kaepernick's complaints:

'If that guy had a dictator like the Castro's for 57 years in power in his country, he would know what it's like to really be oppressed. Especially for black people. Black people are the most repressed in the country. The prisons are filled with them mostly. There are more than 100,000 people in Cuba that died in Cuba because of the Castros. There are 3 million people in exile from the country. If he would know what it's like living in Cuba, he would know what it's like to be an oppressed black man. In Cuba they are the poorest of the poor. So poor, in fact, that they don't have the chance to leave the country when possible, which is why so many throw themselves to the sea in a makeshift raft risking death.'"

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/kaepernick-protests-oppression-then-wears-castro-shirt

[North Star]

Sergio J. Sixto, a former prisoner of Castro who now lives in America...took issue with Kaepernick's complaints:

'If that guy had a dictator like the Castro's for 57 years in power in his country, he would know what it's like to really be oppressed. Especially for black people. Black people are the most repressed in the country. The prisons are filled with them mostly."

Approximately 12–13% of the American population is African-American, but they make up 35% of jail inmates, and 37% of prison inmates of the 2.2 million male inmates as of 2014

Also, US incarceration rate per 100,000 is 698, compared to 'just' 510 in Cuba. (World Prison Brief. Data for the whole Wikipedia list was last retrieved on 29 Sep 2015)
And then there are the prisoners killed due to heat in Texas, Alabama, and other Southern states.

[zamyrabyrd]

Also, US incarceration rate per 100,000 is 698, compared to 'just' 510 in Cuba. (World Prison Brief. Data for the whole Wikipedia list was last retrieved on 29 Sep 2015)
And then there are the prisoners killed due to heat in Texas, Alabama, and other Southern states.

How about the statistics for political prisoners?

[Karl Henning]

"Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up! Lock Her Up!"

[Madiel]

How about the statistics for political prisoners?

If you think that the US only locks up black males because they are genuinely bad people so it's all okay because the "political" prisoner rate is really low... That's a tremendously naive view about how the justice system works. And it's placing a great weight on a subjective label that is code for saying that someone ought not to be in jail.

And in this case it doesn't help you. If in fact Cuba's rate of "real" non political prisoners is lower than the headline figure, that just makes the rate at which the US jails people even more abnormal. It's no credit to the US if the "true" rate of incarceration in Cuba ought to be 300 instead of 500, it just makes the US rate in the 600s even worse.