Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Madiel]

My question is: unless you want to challenge the claim that large numbers of people are crossing these waters, what is the point of spending such a large amount of time discussing whether or not a particular photo is a carefully composed image or a lucky snap?

Or is being photographed in a staged fashion some new criterion for rejecting refugee status that's been added to the Convention while I wasn't looking?

And why have you fallen hook line and sinker for this total distraction that was lobbed into the thread, as if one photograph could possibly destroy the integrity of an entire newspaper?

[Florestan]

unless you want to challenge the claim that large numbers of people are crossing these waters

This is not a claim, it´s a fact. How could I challenge a fact?

And why have you fallen hook line and sinker for this total distraction that was lobbed into the thread, as if one photograph could possibly destroy the integrity of an entire newspaper?

Oh, come on! My question had nothing to do with any newspaper, nor did I claim it is a fake, I am actually sure it isn´t. But if you deemed it a total distraction, why bother to comment on it?

[Madiel]

But if you deemed it a total distraction, why bother to comment on it?

Because this thread crops up on my "Show new replies to your posts" page and has become exceptionally boring.

[Florestan]

Because this thread crops up on my "Show new replies to your posts" page and has become exceptionally boring.

We would certainly benefit from the possibility of unsubscribing a thread.

But we are not obliged to reply to each and every post, are we? We can very well ignore the boring or inconsequential or not-worth-replying posts. Not that I do that too often. 

[Madiel]

I didn't respond after the first several posts about the photograph, did I? 

Now if you'll excuse me I'm eating dinner to the sounds of Beethoven.

[Florestan]

Now if you'll excuse me I'm eating dinner to the sounds of Beethoven.

Enjoy your meal and the music!

[North Star]

Right. Greek shallow waters are famous for causing hypothermia. Just ask the guy on the left, the one with red short pants.

Yeah, short pants over what looks like a wetsuit.

[Florestan]

Women are always carrying more than men

So true.

[snyprrr]

Do you mean this photo? (what's my prize for reading that far?  )

Now what evidence is there of this being 'shopped' in a way that changes the content? Hint: it being a good photo is not enough.

NO NO NO NO NO

it was on the Front Page of the NYT... ack... like,...last Sunday/Monday?? Front Page, on the top....

The boat was farther away, people in the water closer up.... oh please please please someone find this pic so all the naysayers on here can shut up... the pic I'M talking about is CLEARLY PhotoShop.

THAT PIC ABOVE IS NOT THE PIC, AND NOT PHOTOSHOP



"You're gaslighting me!!"

[Sergeant Rock]

oh please please please someone find this pic so all the naysayers on here can shut up...

Since you've seen the picture, why don't you find it? Or at least explain why it offends you so much? ...I mean beyond claiming it was photoshopped. (Ha, what I am talking about? this is snyprrr...he never explains his rants)

Sarge

[snyprrr]

Didya see the massive lunger Hill hocked into her glass of water... was that yesterday?

cough cough



"Drugs that Give You Dry Mouth"




Seriously, do you guys think she could make it through a debate? I have a feeling it's going to go like this: "Did you see how Trump treated a woman? Oh, the masher!! Cad!!"




Soros = Koch Bros. (no real difference)





Who here actually has muslim FRIENDS? Just curious.






I asked a young black male friend to describe Trump in one word. He waffled. I said, "Two or three." He came back with, "Confused." Then I asked him the same about Hill. His response was quicker and determined. "CONfused." I believe he's of voting age.






My lesbian friend said I was sexist for calling Hill "Cankles". But then, later, I remembered how my friend must feel about Palin, and I was able to check her on her hypocrisy. If Hill were a man, baby, she wouldn't have gotten anywhere acting and looking the way she does. No man would have gotten away with all the coughing fits, the HowardDean like moments, all this crap. pfffffffff

[snyprrr]

Since you've seen the picture, why don't you find it? Or at least explain why it offends you so much? ...I mean beyond claiming it was photoshopped. (Ha, what I am talking about? this is snyprrr...he never explains his rants)

Sarge

What? Is the FrontPage of the NYT being PhotoShopped NOT ENOUGH? Whaaat???

Of course, what's shown is all the dark skinned people looking longingly into the camera with the "SaveMeEurope" look. I guess you may call it... uh... Propaganda?


Sarge, how do I find the pic since I don't have NYT? Can I look up by day on Yahoo? OK, I'll try...... (off he goes)...

[snyprrr]

I'm trying.


This sucks of course


Why should it be hard to find this for others? You know I'm a 'tard when it comes to the computer



GIVE A BROTHA A BONE HERE!!!!!

[snyprrr]

as if one photograph could possibly destroy the integrity of an entire newspaper?

Because one picture is worth a billion words at this point?

Why should NYT PhotoShop anything? If everything is as real as is being stated, why doctor ANY bit of information? Why isn't the reality of it REAL ENOUGH?

And, hey, it's not just this one pic that "destroys the integrity of an entire newspaper", lol. Yea, the NYT is not in the tank for a particular agenda, no, they are as unbiased as they come.

I mean, really? Come on. Doesn't everyone know where the NYT stands on ANY issue?? LOL




gaaaah

put me in my place- find the pic with me.... prove me wrong, that should give anyone here satisfaction, no?

[Sergeant Rock]

Is this the one you're talking about, snyprrr?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/30/world/middleeast/migrants-refugees-rescued-libya-italy.html




Sarge

[Madiel]

Yes I've had Muslim friends. How shocking. Had one in primary school, had another one in high school, have worked with them...

I don't expect any nuance from you snyprr  as you've previously shown a wide array of other prejudices. I remember vividly being part of the target group of one of your outbursts.

[Sergeant Rock]

The Guardian has video. I suppose snyprrr will claim that was faked too.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/29/dramatic-photos-show-refugees-fleeing-libya-being-rescued-at-sea


Sarge

[Karl Henning]

The Guardian has video. I suppose snyprrr will claim that was faked too.

No more reliable than those moon landing photos, Sarge 

[Sergeant Rock]

No more reliable than those moon landing photos, Sarge 

Or the video of the planes hitting the Twin Towers 

Sarge

[zamyrabyrd]

Who here actually has Muslim FRIENDS? Just curious.

I interact with them practically every day, also speak some Arabic.
They can be the best people in the world, have strong family values, are hospitable, the women are modest (don't cuss like some of their liberated sisters in the West), are appreciative students, etc.

The main problem in my opinion is cultural shock, mainly coming from imposed ideology (re: certain politicians who thought to give "freedom" to the masses no matter how much it cost us and them) and unrealistic views of life outside their own environment via TV ("Bold and Beautiful", etc.)and films, most of which are hedonistic trash. Women on the whole are restricted in dress and movement, so you can imagine the guys going wild when they get to Europe seeing girls on the street wearing shorts.

There is also the recent phenomenon of the born-again who reject completely the freedoms (self-regulation that they don't completely understand since they are used to force from outside) and what they see as corruption coming from the West. As for the sex-crazed films and TV programs, they do have a point.