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MN Dave

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Jerry Goldsmith
« on: December 22, 2009, 06:10:48 AM »
I was enjoying the Star Trek: The Motion Picture soundtrack last night and thought that, yes, Goldsmith should have his own thread here (moreso than Willaims *sniff*). Other top notch stuff: Planet of the Apes and Alien. I haven't heard CDs of his other works (I've heard the music at the movies) but I'm a'gonna.

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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2009, 06:15:24 AM »
I was enjoying the Star Trek: The Motion Picture soundtrack last night and thought that, yes, Goldsmith should have his own thread here (moreso than Willaims *sniff*). Other top notch stuff: Planet of the Apes and Alien. I haven't heard CDs of his other works (I've heard the music at the movies) but I'm a'gonna.

Have you heard The Omen - 1976 soundtrack?  Excellent!

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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2009, 06:16:08 AM »
Have you heard The Omen - 1976 soundtrack?  Excellent!

Of course I have my eye on that one.  >:D

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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2009, 06:40:54 AM »
If I grabbed just one off the shelf in a burning house, the three you mentioned Dave would be hard to pass.  However, I would grab his Alien score.  In short, the three you mentioned are my favorites. 

Another worth your time is Patton....great stuff.  But try to get a download of the vinyl album if you can. 

Wait 'til Benji jumps on board this thread! ;D
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2009, 06:42:52 AM »
Thank you, sir. Patton! Yes, I'd like that.

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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2009, 06:45:02 AM »
Another, that it sounds like we both need (I only have a couple excerpts) is Total Recall.  Cool film as well, IMO.
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2009, 06:47:03 AM »
Another, that it sounds like we both need (I only have a couple excerpts) is Total Recall.  Cool film as well, IMO.

Yes, there's much to explore. I sort of needed a new music vein to mine and this might be it.

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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2009, 06:49:40 AM »
Yes, there's much to explore. I sort of needed a new music vein to mine and this might be it.

With Herrmann in the conversation, Goldsmith is in my mind the best ever for scores.  His adaptability is unmatched, IMO.  His music will take you down many different avenues while many film composers keep you on the same street. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 06:51:49 AM »
With Herrmann in the conversation, Goldsmith is in my mind the best ever for scores.  His adaptability is unmatched, IMO.  His music will take you down many different avenues while many film composers keep you on the same street.

I agree with this totally. Williams and Elfman seem to play the same tunes repeatedly in slight variations from movie to movie.

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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 07:00:51 AM »
I agree with this totally. Williams and Elfman seem to play the same tunes repeatedly in slight variations from movie to movie.

I feel your pain, though I enjoy Johnny's music, even Raiders and Superman.  Williams can have his moments though, breaking away from his war horses.  A couple that you may want to try from him are Catch Me If You Can and Minority Report (my all time favorite from him).  For an Elfman difference maker, try A Simple Plan....absolutely brilliant!
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2009, 07:02:11 AM »
I feel your pain, though I enjoy Johnny's music, even Raiders and Superman.  Williams can have his moments though, breaking away from his war horses.  A couple that you may want to try from him are Catch Me If You Can and Minority Report (my all time favorite from him).  For an Elfman difference maker, try A Simple Plan....absolutely brilliant!

Hm. Maybe after I collect more Goldsmith.  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2009, 07:04:43 AM »
Hm. Maybe after I collect more Goldsmith.  ;)

 ;D

And make sure you give his Western scores a sniff.  Also very good stuff.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2009, 07:13:02 AM »
Just saw The Boys from Brazil, with (IIRC) a score by Goldsmith.  Sort of 'period-piece' waltzes, well done, served the movie nicely.
 
Of course, the film-scorer you want for waltzes is Sergei Sergeyevich . . . .

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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2009, 11:07:38 AM »
;D

And make sure you give his Western scores a sniff.  Also very good stuff.

I might though I don't like most Western music. Yet I enjoy Westerns. Go figure.

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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2009, 11:56:49 AM »
Honestly Dave, have you heard the rich vein of Spaghetti Westerns beyond the obvious? I remember my friend had a few boxes of just dynamite stuff from the '60s-'70s. oh oh, I feel a Morricone Thread coming on...

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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2009, 12:10:24 PM »
Honestly Dave, have you heard the rich vein of Spaghetti Westerns beyond the obvious? I remember my friend had a few boxes of just dynamite stuff from the '60s-'70s. oh oh, I feel a Morricone Thread coming on...

That stuff I like. I was thinking more mainstream big Western music. You know, like Copland.  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2009, 01:20:43 PM »
Thank you, sir. Patton! Yes, I'd like that.

Man, Patton has one of THE great soundtracks!

One of Jerry Goldsmith's very first scores was for a western movie called Lonely Are the Brave, which star Kirk Douglas says is the best movie he ever made.

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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2009, 03:57:09 PM »
Thanks for your input, Brian.

Just picked up The Omen and Total Recall.

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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2009, 02:38:07 AM »
I like his music a lot. The opening titles of 'Tora, Tora, Tora' are highlights for me. Also the scores for 'Patton', the 'Black Mass' from 'Damien, Omen 2', 'Planet of the Apes', 'Alien', 'Capricorn One' and 'Total Recall' - as you see, I have high brow tastes in cinema  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2009, 05:44:31 AM »
Bogey's table-pounding had me re-visiting Minority Report.  It is a good score, perhaps Williams's best.  Sure wish he had scored the harp concerto which was recently premiered at Symphony as well (as imaginatively, as intelligently) as he scored his music accompanying this film.  But then, I suppose Spielberg paid him more.