Missing Members

[Que]

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Interesting how we all tend to miss the same people whom we reported over and over for having pathological character defects. I guess it's like long-term memory loss.... 

I suspect the enfants terribles are the more noticeable absentees, not necesarily the most missed. I for one won't miss our pseudo fascist "friend" JdP or one minute. I hope for his sake that one day he will find out that all that hate he cherishes and fosters is eating his humanity and moral and mental sanity.

M forever was quite another case - more of an socially  impossible personality than detestable as a person. I hope is doing well.

Every time I see the Mahler mania thread I do wonder if Greta will ever drop by again. I hope so! More female members would be nice anyway.

Q

[Marc]

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Every time I see the Mahler mania thread I do wonder if Greta will ever drop by again. I hope so! More female members would be nice anyway.

Naughty wishing by the groom.

[Karl Henning]

+1

Interesting how we all tend to miss the same people whom we reported over and over for having pathological character defects. I guess it's like long-term memory loss.... 

Maybe it's a variant of The Stockholm Syndrome

[Karl Henning]

As a psychologist I do understand that, of course. But in non-clinical settings, it does not mean I have to take it on the chin. The convenience of the ignore button solved that problem brilliantly.

Wisdom.

[Karl Henning]

Classic Sean, the master of the triple-tongued somersault of illogical logic and circumcognition!    Be Happy that you could not understand it, because if you could, that fact would be evidence against you at the sanity hearing!  0:)

If he had not been so incapable of humorous effect, he had reminded us of Dogberry.

[Gurn Blanston]

If he had not been so incapable of humorous effect, he had reminded us of Dogberry.

Dogbert?

[Karl Henning]

Dogbert?

Wicked!

Good morning, O Gurn!

[Gurn Blanston]

Wicked!

Good morning, O Gurn!

Back at'cha, Dr. H.! 

[Mirror Image]

Re: Daniel (Madaboutmahler)

He's a very busy guy these days. Whether he's playing percussion in a school orchestra, conducting an orchestra that he assembled from a group of a friends, composing, scrambling to finish school work, etc., he's just been super busy. I can understand him not having time for the forum.

[Florestan]

our pseudo fascist "friend" JdP

He was not a fascist at all, not by a large stretch.

And this is going to be my last comment on JdP.

[EigenUser]

Snyprrr is active and binge posting. 

I never got the impression that snyprrr is a looney-tune poster. His posts make him seem more like he is always with a cup of espresso in one hand while typing.

[Karl Henning]

He was not a fascist at all, not by a large stretch.

And this is going to be my last comment on JdP.

I appreciate your role as The Loyal Opposition here.

[Florestan]

I appreciate your role as The Loyal Opposition here.

Thank you, Sir!

My only loyalty is to my own conscience, and it tells me that "fascist" means nothing whatsoever, except "somebody one doesn't agree with"... For the left, I am a Fascist; for the right, I am a Socialist, or downright Communist --- I know it by my own experience.

[Wakefield]

He was not a fascist at all, not by a large stretch.

Besides "fascist" has become a very vague word, as historically communists used it to refer their enemies in general.

[Florestan]

Besides "fascist" has become a very vague word, as historically communists used it to refer their enemies in general.

Exactly. You as a Chilean are in a better position than others to judge. 

[Wakefield]

Exactly. You as a Chilean are in a better position than others to judge. 

Absolutely! 

Here Pinochet's supporters were called "fachos" from the Italian "fascio" (approximately same pronunciation in both languages). 

[Florestan]

Absolutely! 

Here Pinochet's supporters were called "fachos" from the Italian "fascio" (approximately same pronunciation in both languages).

Well, here is the Italian National Fascist Party program.

Politically, the Manifesto calls for:

    Universal suffrage with a lowered voting age to 18 years, and voting and electoral office eligibility for all age 25 and up;
    Proportional representation on a regional basis;
    Voting for women (which was opposed by most other European nations);
    Representation at government level of newly created national councils by economic sector;
    The abolition of the Italian Senate (at the time, the Senate, as the upper house of parliament, was by process elected by the wealthier citizens, but were in reality direct appointments by the king. It has been described as a sort of extended council of the crown);
    The formation of a national council of experts for labor, for industry, for transportation, for the public health, for communications, etc. Selections to be made of professionals or of tradesmen with legislative powers, and elected directly to a general commission with ministerial powers.

In labor and social policy, the Manifesto calls for:

    The quick enactment of a law of the state that sanctions an eight-hour workday for all workers;
    A minimum wage;
    The participation of workers' representatives in the functions of industry commissions;
    To show the same confidence in the labor unions (that prove to be technically and morally worthy) as is given to industry executives or public servants;
    Reorganization of the railways and the transport sector;
    Revision of the draft law on invalidity insurance;
    Reduction of the retirement age from 65 to 55.

In military affairs, the Manifesto advocates:

    Creation of a short-service national militia with specifically defensive responsibilities;
    Armaments factories are to be nationalized;
    A peaceful but competitive foreign policy.

In finance, the Manifesto advocates:

    A strong progressive tax on capital (envisaging a "partial expropriation" of concentrated wealth);
    The seizure of all the possessions of the religious congregations and the abolition of all the bishoprics, which constitute an enormous liability on the Nation and on the privileges of the poor;
    Revision of all contracts for military provisions;
    The revision of all military contracts and the seizure of 85 percent of the profits therein.


Let any leftist come to the front and say "I oppose it!" 

[Wakefield]

Let any leftist come to the front and say "I oppose it!" 

Yes, these poor guys were misunderstood. 

This remember me some words by Chesterton:

This is the arresting and dominant fact about modern social discussion; that the quarrel is not merely about the difficulties, but about the aim. We agree about the evil; it is about the good that we should tear each other's eyes out. We all admit that a lazy aristocracy is a bad thing. We should not by any means all admit that an active aristocracy would be a good thing. We all feel angry with an irreligious priesthood; but some of us would go mad with disgust at a really religious one. Everyone is indignant if our army is weak, including the people who would be even more indignant if it were strong. The social case is exactly the opposite of the medical case. We do not disagree, like doctors, about the precise nature of the illness, while agreeing about the nature of health. On the contrary, we all agree that England is unhealthy, but half of us would not look at her in what the other half would call blooming health. Public abuses are so prominent and pestilent that they sweep all generous people into a sort of fictitious unanimity. We forget that, while we agree about the abuses of things, we should differ very much about the uses of them. Mr. Cadbury and I would agree about the bad public house. It would be precisely in front of the good public-house that our painful personal fracas would occur.

[Florestan]

Yes, these poor guys were misunderstood. 

Oh, not at all.  The Swedish Social-Democratic Party followed not the Italian Fascists, who never advocated eugenics, but the National-Socialist Party of the German Workers, which did! 

Chesterton

A beacon of (Catholic) Fascism.

[Wakefield]

A beacon of (Catholic) Fascism.

Yes, a beacon, but more a skeptic preacher, a sort of intellectual stand-up comedian. A preacher of the common sense.

Today, after a long process and almost against his status as a Catholic writer, I'm convinced he is the greatest essayist I have ever read and with Jorge Luis Borges and Franz Kafka, one my favorite writers from the XX Century.