Mahler Mania, Rebooted

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Pat B

Quote from: ørfeo on November 01, 2016, 12:57:45 PM
I had a slight panic when listening to samples of this for second time...

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...when I heard a quite loud cough from the audience. I'm instinctively a bit wary of live recordings.

However, I'm listening to the whole 1st movement at the moment via streaming, and I get the impression I stumbled across the loudest cough in the whole thing. Overall the audience seems pretty quiet.

For those that know it, any comments on how this compares to live recordings generally?

I don't remember audience noise being obtrusive, but you may be more sensitive to it than I am. I'll try to give it a spin this week.

Mirror Image

Cross-posted from the 'Purchases' thread:

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 02, 2016, 08:44:06 AM
Just bought:



I recall hearing Tennstedt's live M2 a few years ago and being quite impressed with Tennstedt's musicality and the way lovingly shapes certain phrases. Look forward to hearing the whole set plus this live M3, which I've read good things about. I haven't thought much of his studio recordings as the audio quality seemed to somehow compress the large range of dynamics that occur in this music.

PerfectWagnerite

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Quote from: Mirror Image on November 01, 2016, 07:09:15 PM

I received Levine's 3rd in the mail today, so if I may have to post some thoughts on it once I finish giving it a test drive. Kudos, my friend.

Don't you love the cover on this:



Pretty much sums up what this work is about doesn't it?

Pat B

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on November 02, 2016, 10:21:29 AM
Don't you love the cover on this:

I have commented on that cover before. The back label mentions that it is by Maurice Sendak on commission from RCA. I assume it was much more expensive than most classical record covers. At first I thought, "they wouldn't do that anymore." But really it was probably an outlier even at the time.

Regardless, very cool.

Mirror Image

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Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on November 02, 2016, 10:21:29 AM
Don't you love the cover on this:



Pretty much sums up what this work is about doesn't it?

It's certainly a nice cover, but I'm not sure if it sums up the music. That's a bit of a difficult question.

cilgwyn

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Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on November 02, 2016, 10:21:29 AM
Don't you love the cover on this:



Pretty much sums up what this work is about doesn't it?
Wow! I see the vinyl version is only £432.45 on Amazon uk! :o If I found it on a market stall,I'd be half expecting a pop-up story book inside! ;D

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: cilgwyn on November 03, 2016, 03:54:46 AM
Wow! I see the vinyl version is only £432.45 on Amazon uk! :o If I found it on a market stall,I'd be half expecting a pop-up story book inside! ;D
There is one selling on amazon.com in the US for $5.75 in LIKE NEW condition. No option to ship oversees though.

I might buy it just to get a good look at that picture even though I don't have a turntable.

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 02, 2016, 06:57:51 PM
It's certainly a nice cover, but I'm not sure if it sums up the music. That's a bit of a difficult question.
Oh come on. If you give Mahler that painting (incidentally titled "What The Night Tells Me") and asked him to write a piece of music about it he would likely have come up with something like the 3rd Symphony. Full moon, Mahler in a gazebo, an angel giving him a bouquet of flowers, one animal on a trombone, another on a flugelhorn. Doesn't get better than that.

Mirror Image

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Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on November 03, 2016, 02:58:26 PM
Oh come on. If you give Mahler that painting (incidentally titled "What The Night Tells Me") and asked him to write a piece of music about it he would likely have come up with something like the 3rd Symphony. Full moon, Mahler in a gazebo, an angel giving him a bouquet of flowers, one animal on a trombone, another on a flugelhorn. Doesn't get better than that.

Well, I don't really read too much into album covers. It's the music that determines what I hear and what kind of imagery that it brings to mind is of my own creation.

SurprisedByBeauty

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on November 03, 2016, 02:58:26 PM

Oh come on. If you give Mahler that painting (incidentally titled "What The Night Tells Me") and asked him to write a piece of music about it he would likely have come up with something like the 3rd Symphony. Full moon, Mahler in a gazebo, an angel giving him a bouquet of flowers, one animal on a trombone, another on a flugelhorn. Doesn't get better than that.

And what you can't see, but clever Sendak included, is Mahler also getting a BJ from Anna von Mildenburg in his composition hut. The two dogs on the left caught a glimpse and now they are trying to awkwardly look the other way.  ;)

crosspost:



#morninglistening to #Mahler's 2nd w/@Munich_Phil & @ValeryGergiev on the new label of the... http://ift.tt/2ffj2Ck


Review of one of the two concerts this was recorded from: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jenslaurson/2015/09/28/gergiev-starts-munich-tenure-with-mahler/#1cb752d25329

Jay F

Quote from: SurprisedByBeauty on November 04, 2016, 01:54:13 AM
And what you can't see, but clever Sendak included, is Mahler also getting a BJ from Anna von Mildenburg in his composition hut. The two dogs on the left caught a glimpse and now they are trying to awkwardly look the other way.  ;)

:D

Mirror Image

Quote from: SurprisedByBeauty on November 04, 2016, 01:54:13 AM
And what you can't see, but clever Sendak included, is Mahler also getting a BJ from Anna von Mildenburg in his composition hut. The two dogs on the left caught a glimpse and now they are trying to awkwardly look the other way.  ;)

Mahler porn? :-\ :P

Mirror Image

I just wanted to drop by and say I enjoyed every Levine performance I've heard so far. I listened to the 3rd, 4th, and 7th last night. Today, I'll listen to his 5th, 6th, and 9th.

ritter

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 07, 2016, 06:58:02 AM
I just wanted to drop by and say I enjoyed every Levine performance I've heard so far. I listened to the 3rd, 4th, and 7th last night. Today, I'll listen to his 5th, 6th, and 9th.
And when you're done,  may want to try this   ;):

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...or this:

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Mirror Image

Quote from: ritter on November 07, 2016, 07:01:27 AM
And when you're done,  may want to try this   ;):

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...or this:

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Thanks, Rafael. The Orfeo looks especially good as I love the Wiener Philharmoniker in Mahler's music.

Mirror Image

I suppose the 8th is the only Mahler symphony which Levine hasn't recorded?

ritter

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 07, 2016, 07:52:33 AM
I suppose the 8th is the only Mahler symphony which Levine hasn't recorded?
So it seems...and I have not heard of any bootleg recordings of live performances, either.

This might be of interest to you, John (if you haven't yet read it); the Hurwizter praising Levine's Mahler: http://www.classicstoday.com/review/review-15769/

I am tempted by these recordings, I must admit. My late father (a fervent Mahlerian all his life) really liked Levine's takes on the symphonies, and I still recall the old LPs  on the bookshelves at home in Caracas... :)

Mirror Image

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Quote from: ritter on November 07, 2016, 08:24:14 AM
So it seems...and I have not heard of any bootleg recordings of live performances, either.

This might be of interest to you, John (if you haven't yet read it); the Hurwizter praising Levine's Mahler: http://www.classicstoday.com/review/review-15769/

I am tempted by these recordings, I must admit. My late father (a fervent Mahlerian all his life) really liked Levine's takes on the symphonies, and I still recall the old LPs  on the bookshelves at home in Caracas... :)

I did happen to catch that Hurwitz review. It seems that, overall, Levine gets high marks from a lot of different online sources. It seems I'm heading down that fervent path that your dad has treaded as well. :) I can see now where you get your good tastes in music. ;)

Mahlerian

Quote from: Mirror Image on November 07, 2016, 08:28:06 AM
I did happen to catch that Hurwitz review. It seems that, overall, Levine gets high marks from a lot of different online sources. It seems I'm heading down that fervent path that your dad has treaded as well. :) I can see now where you get your good tastes in music. ;)

I don't know his records all that well, but I can speak to a wonderful Mahler 6 I heard live from Levine a few years ago when he led the BSO.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Mirror Image

Quote from: Mahlerian on November 07, 2016, 08:54:45 AM
I don't know his records all that well, but I can speak to a wonderful Mahler 6 I heard live from Levine a few years ago when he led the BSO.

I bet that was some concert! So jealous. :)

kishnevi

Quote from: ritter on November 07, 2016, 07:01:27 AM
And when you're done,  may want to try this   ;):

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...or this:

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I was disappointed in both, mostly because of the sonics. I remember the Israeli performance as slightly better.

That said, the only Resurrection I truly dislike is Abbado/VPO, which managed to make it a boring symphony.  And you have to work at  making M2 a bore.