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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4240 on: July 17, 2019, 07:25:13 AM »
Not a chance its the original version - that was released one-time only by the RVW estate to make the Hickox recording.  I would be surprised if internationally any version except the "standard" revision was played - in part because of availability of the orchestral parts.......

I'm not familiar with the various versions of the piece. Which is the one most commonly played?
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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4241 on: July 17, 2019, 07:38:29 AM »
I'm not familiar with the various versions of the piece. Which is the one most commonly played?

The revised score of 1933 (published 1936) is most commonly played, and until fairly  recently, the only version played. RVW considered further revision in 1951 but decided the work was 'beyond mending'

The original 1913-14 version was recorded by Richard Hickox in 2007, more recently the 1920 version was recorded by Martyn Brabbins.


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« Reply #4242 on: July 17, 2019, 08:23:39 AM »
The revised score of 1933 (published 1936) is most commonly played, and until fairly  recently, the only version played. RVW considered further revision in 1951 but decided the work was 'beyond mending'

The original 1913-14 version was recorded by Richard Hickox in 2007, more recently the 1920 version was recorded by Martyn Brabbins.
I like the Brabbins releases more than those of Manze and Elder (although Elder's A Pastoral Symphony is excellent). I hope that the 1920 version gets performed in Chicago. I don't listen to the 1936 version anymore as my enjoyment is undermined by the missing section in the Epilogue.
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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4243 on: July 21, 2019, 12:52:10 PM »
I've got this concert coming up on Saturday:

Grant Park Orchestra
Martyn Brabbins, conductor
Stephen Hough, pianist
MacMillan: Stomp
Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 3
Vaughan Williams: Symphony No. 2 “A London Symphony”

Well the performance of this turned out great, and it's a good thing I went Saturday instead of Friday. This review details the problems of the Friday performance, which were thankfully absent when I was there:

https://chicagoclassicalreview.com/2019/07/brabbins-grant-park-orchestra-master-heat-humidity-and-helicopters-with-rewarding-program/

The orchestra played superbly throughout. If they were a regular orchestra instead of a summer one playing outside, I think they'd be recognized as one of the major American orchestras. I think they really nailed the piece, with some great ensemble as well as solo work.

And Hough was terrific in the Beethoven, too.

I've now heard 4 of the 9 VW symphonies live. I think that's pretty good for this side of the ocean.
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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4244 on: July 21, 2019, 12:59:52 PM »
Well the performance of this turned out great, and it's a good thing I went Saturday instead of Friday. This review details the problems of the Friday performance, which were thankfully absent when I was there:

https://chicagoclassicalreview.com/2019/07/brabbins-grant-park-orchestra-master-heat-humidity-and-helicopters-with-rewarding-program/

The orchestra played superbly throughout. If they were a regular orchestra instead of a summer one playing outside, I think they'd be recognized as one of the major American orchestras. I think they really nailed the piece, with some great ensemble as well as solo work.

And Hough was terrific in the Beethoven, too.

I've now heard 4 of the 9 VW symphonies live. I think that's pretty good for this side of the ocean.
Interesting review. Thanks for posting it.
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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4245 on: July 21, 2019, 02:04:28 PM »
Well the performance of this turned out great, and it's a good thing I went Saturday instead of Friday. This review details the problems of the Friday performance, which were thankfully absent when I was there:

https://chicagoclassicalreview.com/2019/07/brabbins-grant-park-orchestra-master-heat-humidity-and-helicopters-with-rewarding-program/

The orchestra played superbly throughout. If they were a regular orchestra instead of a summer one playing outside, I think they'd be recognized as one of the major American orchestras. I think they really nailed the piece, with some great ensemble as well as solo work.

And Hough was terrific in the Beethoven, too.

I've now heard 4 of the 9 VW symphonies live. I think that's pretty good for this side of the ocean.


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« Reply #4246 on: July 21, 2019, 10:30:34 PM »
I've now heard 4 of the 9 VW symphonies live. I think that's pretty good for this side of the ocean.
So far, I scored 5, here in the Netherlands (Nos. 2, 3, 4, 5 and 7) but only the Fourth and Antartica by professional orchestras.  ::)
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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4247 on: July 21, 2019, 10:43:43 PM »
I think I've heard them all live  0:)
But that is hardly surprising living in the UK and being brought up in London in walking distance from the Albert Hall. In particular I was fortunate to hear Boult conduct several of them live. I suspect that I've only heard A Sea Symphony and Sinfonia Antartica live once. Possibly No.8 as well - on VW's 100th birthday (12/10/1972) at RFH London (Boult). I was also at the first performance of the 1913 version of A Lonon Symphony since. c.1920.
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Re: Vaughan Williams's Veranda
« Reply #4248 on: July 22, 2019, 08:03:14 PM »
Well the performance of this turned out great, and it's a good thing I went Saturday instead of Friday. This review details the problems of the Friday performance, which were thankfully absent when I was there:

https://chicagoclassicalreview.com/2019/07/brabbins-grant-park-orchestra-master-heat-humidity-and-helicopters-with-rewarding-program/

The orchestra played superbly throughout. If they were a regular orchestra instead of a summer one playing outside, I think they'd be recognized as one of the major American orchestras. I think they really nailed the piece, with some great ensemble as well as solo work.

And Hough was terrific in the Beethoven, too.

I've now heard 4 of the 9 VW symphonies live. I think that's pretty good for this side of the ocean.

Excellent! It's always great to hear about a VW symphony being played by an American orchestra. I still have yet to see one live...
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