Faddish phrases that annoy you.

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ritter

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 04, 2017, 06:27:24 AM
I think this was the butt of some joking even in the '60s, but it has surely spiked since.

I'm not qualified to say just when it started, but I remember the very day that my 10th-grade English teacher firmly taught us to avoid that barbarous colloquialism  0:)
Thanks!   :)

SurprisedByBeauty

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 04, 2017, 06:27:24 AM
I think this was the butt of some joking even in the '60s, but it has surely spiked since.

I'm not qualified to say just when it started, but I remember the very day that my 10th-grade English teacher firmly taught us to avoid that barbarous colloquialism  0:)

It's always considered the stereotypical California Valley-Girl type of speak, like, isn't it totally?

It (in part) takes on the role of the extender; a neutral phrase that can be inserted at will in spoken language to give oneself time for finding the next phrase or the way the sentence and thought is meant to go. "Uhm" is another one; more subtle.

ritter

Quote from: SurprisedByBeauty on April 04, 2017, 06:53:47 AM
It's always considered the stereotypical California Valley-Girl type of speak, like, isn't it totally?

It (in part) takes on the role of the extender; a neutral phrase that can be inserted at will in spoken language to give oneself time for finding the next phrase or the way the sentence and thought is meant to go. "Uhm" is another one; more subtle.
Of course, we have those extrenders in Spanish as well ("muletillas", i.e. "small crutches"). The most common is "o sea" (akin to "I mean" in English). But "like" being used all the time nowadays by people of all walks of life is rather strinking IMO.

Karl Henning


Quote from: ritter on April 04, 2017, 06:32:35 AM
Thanks!   :)

There is a kind of public speaking club called Toastmasters, and at least being aware of (almost impossible to hope for outright shedding) such tics as like and um is one of the ongoing lessons . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: SurprisedByBeauty on April 04, 2017, 06:53:47 AM
It's always considered the stereotypical California Valley-Girl type of speak, like, isn't it totally?

You say always (and you may be right  ;)  ), but I don't know how much of the rest of the country was aware of it before . . .

http://www.youtube.com/v/qBPfbsyHABc

And then, of course, in many cases what begins as mockery ends very badly as an acquired habit . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

'No problem' usually a response from a young shop assistant instead of 'thank you'.

But, as my daughter tells me, I'm turning into 'a grumpy old man'.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Karl Henning

I'm so glad for you that there was no problem.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

SurprisedByBeauty

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 04, 2017, 08:48:34 AM
You say always (and you may be right  ;)  ), but I don't know how much of the rest of the country was aware of it before . . .

http://www.youtube.com/v/qBPfbsyHABc

And then, of course, in many cases what begins as mockery ends very badly as an acquired habit . . . .

There's that.
And there's THIS. https://vimeo.com/41072068
And th

vandermolen

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 04, 2017, 09:26:24 AM
I'm so glad for you that there was no problem.
None whatsoever Karl.

Now get back to composing.  8)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

'Summiting' instead of 'climbing to the summit'

'Actioned'


>:D
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

XB-70 Valkyrie

Anything and everything coming from the mouth (or keyboard) of an HR person.

The on-boarding process
Reaching out to you
partner (as a verb)
rightsizing
outsourcing



If you really dislike Bach you keep quiet about it! - Andras Schiff

Brian

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on April 05, 2017, 01:35:26 PM
Reaching out to you
Or "touching base with you". Reminds me of an excellent baseball article I read last night.

"When it comes to everyday office conversation, baseball is not your best friend. What do I mean? Well, if you're relying on clichés from the diamond, you're likely to get eye rolls from a majority of your colleagues. In other words, if you explain that you're going to pinch hit for somebody at a meeting and plan to hit it out of the ballpark because you're going to avoid throwing any curveballs at the client, expect to see colleagues throwing their head into their hands."

The article then describes some baseball phrases that have avoided becoming hackneyed or faddish:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/four-ways-baseball-has-shaped-the-english-language/

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on April 05, 2017, 01:35:26 PM
Anything and everything coming from the mouth (or keyboard) of an HR person.

The on-boarding process
Reaching out to you
rightsizing
outsourcing
i hear these all the time at work.

"reaching out" is a favorite line of my manager.

Brian

My boss's favorite word is "tweak", which she uses for change, edit, revise, fix, resolve, update, completely start over, etc. "Can you tweak this?"


vandermolen

"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

SurprisedByBeauty

Quote from: Brian on April 05, 2017, 01:44:16 PM
Or "touching base with you". Reminds me of an excellent baseball article I read last night.

"When it comes to everyday office conversation, baseball is not your best friend. What do I mean? Well, if you're relying on clichés from the diamond, you're likely to get eye rolls from a majority of your colleagues. In other words, if you explain that you're going to pinch hit for somebody at a meeting and plan to hit it out of the ballpark because you're going to avoid throwing any curveballs at the client, expect to see colleagues throwing their head into their hands."

The article then describes some baseball phrases that have avoided becoming hackneyed or faddish:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/four-ways-baseball-has-shaped-the-english-language/

That one came out of left field...

Karl Henning

Quote from: Brian on April 05, 2017, 01:44:16 PM
Or "touching base with you". Reminds me of an excellent baseball article I read last night.

"When it comes to everyday office conversation, baseball is not your best friend. What do I mean? Well, if you’re relying on clichés from the diamond, you’re likely to get eye rolls from a majority of your colleagues. In other words, if you explain that you’re going to pinch hit for somebody at a meeting and plan to hit it out of the ballpark because you’re going to avoid throwing any curveballs at the client, expect to see colleagues throwing their head into their hands."

The article then describes some baseball phrases that have avoided becoming hackneyed or faddish:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/four-ways-baseball-has-shaped-the-english-language/

Yes, damn it! The fat lady sang the curtain down on that, long time ago.

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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Wendell_E

Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on April 05, 2017, 01:35:26 PM
Anything and everything coming from the mouth (or keyboard) of an HR person.


Heck, I've never like the term "human resources".
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." ― Mark Twain

Karl Henning

Quote from: Ken B on April 05, 2017, 05:41:51 PM
Epic.

Great line in In a Lonely Place where Martha Stewart (IIRC) explains what she means by epic . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot