Quiz: Mystery scores

[lukeottevanger]

OK, Johan, missed that one! edit - missed both of them, the Schnittke identification, and the Turnovsky post!

No 4 looks like Murail to me. I'm ploughing through my 4 CDs of his music, and there are many similar passages. If it's not him, someone tell me and save me hours of spectral botherment!

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

A very common English learner's error- I didn't saw, thinking they need saw because didn't is past tense: you need see because you're only describing the past as it was...

I know, Sean, I know. I just hurriedly changed the sentence without changing the tense... 

[lukeottevanger]

Can't hear Turnovsky's vocals at either point - and the suggestion is, of course, that if he sings in both places then they have used a single take for both scherzo and da capo! Sure you're not hearing something in the orchestra? This passage has fun little warbling trills, cross rhythms and chromatic counter-melodies under the bellowing main idea - maybe it's one of these you're hearing?

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Can't hear Turnovsky's vocals at either point - and the suggestion is, of course, that if he sings in both places then they have used a single take for both scherzo and da capo! Sure you're not hearing something in the orchestra? This passage has fun little warbling trills, cross rhythms and chromatic counter-melodies under the bellowing main idea - maybe it's one of these you're hearing?

I'll check again. But it really startled me... He wouldn't be the first conductor to get over-enthusiastic...

Listened again (through headphones): if that isn't a human voice, I wonder which instrument(s) is (are) making that sound!?

[lukeottevanger]

I'll listen again with headphones myself, later

In the meantime, why not have another round of scores. This is just a random selection, quickly culled and without much sense or reason. One composer is rather over-represented. Some of them are very easy, I think.

LO 205, 206 and 207

[lukeottevanger]

LO 208, 209 and 210

[lukeottevanger]

LO 211, 212, 213 and 214

[Mark G. Simon]

LO 214 is clearly Polish. Judging by the use of saxophones, I'm going to say it's Penderecki. For no good reason at all I'm going to guess that it's one of the De Natura Sonoris pieces.

[lukeottevanger]

Very good! Do you want to take a stab at which?

[(poco) Sforzando]

I hate when he says they're easy, because then you feel like a moron if you can't get them right away. 

213, because of the virtuoso piano textures and the deliberately quaint English directions, could be Percy Grainger.

That big full score with lots of staves could be easy, but I can't read or enlarge it.

208: Arvo Part did a suite of easy pieces including a Rottkappachen und der Wolf.

[Guido]

LO205 is the 'Fluster Kadenz' from the end of Ligeti's remarkable cello concerto of 1966. Fantastic piece, and apparently extremely difficult - I would like to look at the part some time.

I feel like there are other that I might know - 212 and 213

[lukeottevanger]

I hate it when he says

I hate when he says they're easy, because then you feel like a moron if you can't get them right away

because then he gets them right away!

In any case, the Part - which is by far the hardest one, though leaving the title in was nice of me, I thought  - is correct. And the other is indeed by Grainger. As is usual with him, it's a paraphrase, perhaps his greatest one, - I quote:

....justly regarded as one of the very summits of the transcriber's art. It has been claimed as one of the most elaborately notated pieces in the repertoire of the piano...

Guido - correct, of course! 

[lukeottevanger]

We've had quite a few more scores since the last list was completed so here's a new one. First off, links to the old list:

part one
and
part two

And next, the new, second list:

Set by Luke
165 - Schubert - Symphony no 4 - (Sforzando)
166 - Brahms - Serenade no 1 - (Sforzando)
167 - Bartok - Miraculous Mandarin (complete ballet) - (Sforzando)
168 - Janacek - Otce Nas - (revealed by Luke)
169 - Mozart - Sinfonia Concertante (wind solos) - (Sforzando)
170 - Brahms - Neue Liebeslieder waltzes - (Sforzando)
171 - Liszt - Totentanz - (Johan)
172 - Schumann - Mein Wagen rollet langsam- (Sforzando)
173 - Wagner - Reinhold - (Mark)
174 - Stravinsky - Mass - (Mark)
175 - Sibelius - Tapiola - (Mark)
176 - Debussy- Danse sacre et danse profane - (Sforzando)
177 - Berlioz - Roman Carnival - (Johan)
178 - Debussy - Pelleas et Melisande - (Sforzando)
179 - Rossini - La Cenerentola overture - (Sforzando)
180 - Scriabin - Prometheus - (Mark)
181 - Franck - Symphonic Variations - (Sforzando)
182 - Gershwin - Piano Concerto - (Mark)
183 - Busoni - Piano Concerto - (Robert)
184 - Honegger - Pacific 231 - (Greg)
185 - Ligeti - String Quartet no 1 - (revealed by Luke)
186 - Ligeti - String Quartet no 2 - (matticus)
187 - Holst - The Perfect Fool - (Johan)
188 - Tippett - Fantasia Concertante/Corelli - (Johan)
189 - Elgar - Cockaigne - (Johan)
190 - Tippett - Triple Concerto - (Mark)
191 - Ireland - Piano concerto - (Guido)
192 - Tippett - Symphony no 1 - (Mark)
193 - Vaughan Williams - The Lake in the Mountains - (revealed by Luke)
194 - Tippett - A Child of Our Time - (Robert)
195 - Rubbra - Prelude/Fugue theme of Cyril Scott - (Maciek)
196 - Berners - Le poisson d'or - (Guido)
197 - Tippett - The Midsummer Marriage - (Mark)
198 - Howells - Hymnus Paradisi - (Guido)
199 - Lutoslawski - Two Etudes - (Maciek)
200 - Bloch - Schelomo - (Guido)
201 - Thelonius Monk imrpovisation - (revealed by Luke)
202 - Muperdinck - Hansel und Gretel - (Sforzando)
203 - Hodinott - The sun, the great luminary of the universe - (revealed by Luke)
204 - Zimmermann - Stille und umkehr - (revealed by Luke)
205 - Ligeti - Cello Concerto - (Guido)
206 - ? -
207 - Berio - Folksongs - (Symphonien)
208 - Part - Rottkappchen und der Wolf - (Sforzando)
209 - Ligeti - Lontano - (Greg)
210 - Ligeti - Artikulation - (Greg)
211 - Bussotti - La Passion Selon Sade - (Symphonien)
212 - ? -
213 - Grainger - Ramble on Love - (Sforzando)
214 - Penderecki - De Natura Sonoris I - (Mark/Greg)
215 - Dallapiccola - Quaderno Musicale di Annalibera - (Symphonien)
216 - ? -
217 - ? -
218 - Ives - Improvisation (transcr. Dapogny) - (Mark)
219 - ? -
220 - Messiaen - ? - (Sforzando)
221 - ? -
222 - Crumb - Agnus Dei (Makrokosmos II) - (Symphonien)
223 - ? -
224 - Koechlin - Les Heures Persanes - (Sforzando)
225 - ? -
226 - Mussorgsky - Sunless - (Sforzando)

Set by Greg
31 - Mahler - Ressurection symphony - (Johan)

Set by Symphonien
1 - Lachenmann - Pression - (Luke)
2 - Stravinsky - Les noces - (Johan)
3 - Schoenberg - A Survivor from Warsaw - (Mark)
4  - ? -
5 - Schnittke - Prelude in memoriam Dmitiri Shostakovich - (Mark)
6  - ? -
7 - Stockhausen - Es (aus der sieben Tage) - (Mark)
8 - Nietzsche - There flows a brook - (Guido)

Set by Guido
21 - Beethoven =- Triple Concerto - (Luke)

Set by Sforzando
1 - Schubert - Reliquie Sonata - (Luke)

[greg]

209- easy- Ligeti's Lontano (i have the score after all  )
210- Ligeti's Articulation
214- something by Penderecki...... just a sec. Ok, now I'm pretty sure it's the ending of De Natura Sonoris I.

[lukeottevanger]

Good, Greg, all correct!

I'm not sure whether you or Mark should be credited with the Penderecki - he got there by following clues, but didn't identify which of the two DNS pieces it was; you're the first to get the precise one, though. Split decision? 

[lukeottevanger]

One more, for fun - LO 214 sorry, 215

[(poco) Sforzando]

And the other is indeed by Grainger. As is usual with him, it's a paraphrase, perhaps his greatest one, - I quote:

I should've looked at the melody! Sure looks like the final duet from Rosenkavalier.

[lukeottevanger]

Sure is! (luscious!) Now you just need the title of the Grainger piece (as it isn't just 'Paraphrase on Der Rosenkavalier' or whatever)

[(poco) Sforzando]

Sure is! (luscious!) Now you just need the title of the Grainger piece (as it isn't just 'Paraphrase on Der Rosenkavalier' or whatever)

Let's see now - not Turkey in the Straw, not Country Gardens, not Shepherd's Hey!, not - by George I've got it! "Ramble On The Last Love-Duet In Der Rosenkavalier!"

[lukeottevanger]

LOL - yes, or Ramble on Love, as it's known for short. Listening to it now, as it happens (Ronald Stevenson live performance). Wonderful stuff!