Quiz: Mystery scores

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lukeottevanger

Grainger on Strauss

Quote from: Percy GraingerStrauss is a greater, grander genius than Maurice Ravel because he has so amply the vulgarity that Ravel lacks

I disagree with the first part of this statement, but not the last!

Stevenson's such an admirable figure in every way, and apart from his inspiring compositional accomplishments, such an awesome pianist - one of the finest, honestly, unsurpassable in this repertoire, which he knows, understands and loves passionately from the inside out. His technique is so strong and individual... here's the Grainger piece, in two (much reduced quality) parts

lukeottevanger

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part 2

The page I quoted, btw, straddles the end of the first of these parts and the beginning of the second. FWIW

lukeottevanger

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A few more - and then that's it for the day, I promise:

LO 215 (quite easy), 216 (quite hard) and 217 (very hard)

- sorry, my numberings are wrong for the following 11. Add 1 to get the correct numbering as it appears on the list.

lukeottevanger

LO 218 (hard), 219 (very easy) and 220 (moderate)


lukeottevanger

LO 221 (easy), 222 (very hard, so I've left the name in) and 223 (very hard - and to play too!)

lukeottevanger

LO 224 (hard, so I've left the name in again) and 225 (easy)

Of course, all those difficulty ratings are my opinion, of course, and only to help you know which ones to focus on (or not)

(poco) Sforzando

225 is the third song from Mussorgksy's Sunless cycle.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Guido

221 is Crumb but cant remember what
223 looks like it could be Ornstein to me...
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on April 27, 2008, 09:19:44 AM
LOL - yes, or Ramble on Love, as it's known for short. Listening to it now, as it happens (Ronald Stevenson live performance). Wonderful stuff!

Indeed. Great playing.

[Although I don't really like the whole of Der Rosenkavalier, I think the last 45 minutes or so are sublime.]
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

lukeottevanger

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Sforzando - correct on the Mussorgsky. Obviously I chose this page for its infamous prefiguring of Debussy's Nuages...

Greg - correct, it is Crumb. The Ornstein guess is wrong, though I can see why you'd think that.

BTW, I got the numbering wrong for the last few - I did two 214s, so the following ones are numbered one too low. All corrected in the list, however. It ought to be clear which one is which anyway, from the context.

Guido

Quote from: lukeottevanger on April 27, 2008, 11:58:57 AM
Sforzando - correct on the Mussorgsky. Obviously I chose this page for its infamous prefiguring of Debussy's Nuages...

Greg - correct, it is Crumb. The Ornstein guess is wrong, though I can see why you'd think that.

BTW, I got the numbering wrong for the last few - I did two 214s, so the following ones are numbered one too low. All corrected in the list, however. It ought to be clear which one is which anyway, from the context.

Hey, my name is Guido!
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

lukeottevanger

Yeah, right. Seen one G, seen 'em all. Easily confused, you know....

:-[

lukeottevanger

Any thoughts on 217, Guido?

Which is a kind of clue, if you think about it.

Mark G. Simon

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LO 217 is one of Three Improvisations by Charles Ives.

The AMP at the bottom of the page indicates that it's published by Associated Music Publishers, Ives' publisher. There are verbal notes on the page referring to a recorded performance, and I recalled that Ives did record some piano improvisations. And finally, I checked the plate number on the Cornell library's catalog record for the Three Improvisations, and it matches that on the page.

Guido

Quote from: lukeottevanger on April 27, 2008, 03:30:53 PM
Any thoughts on 217, Guido?

Which is a kind of clue, if you think about it.

I guessed it was something by Ives but didn't recognise it - has someone transcribed something from those recordings that he made?
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

lukeottevanger

Begod, Mark, how d'you get that? Though I know I left on the publisher's reference number....sometimes I am just too nice  ;D

The Improvisations were transcribed by Gail and James Dapogny, Guido. Shall I attach the score? It's only wafer thin 366 KB...  ;D

Guido

Yes do! I've found that CD pretty heavy going on the whole - Ives improvising at his most dissonant, and its all very fragmentary. It's all worth it for that golden version of "the Alcott's" which is just breathtaking in every way.
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away

lukeottevanger

Mark - good detective work! I chose a page where there were hints that a transcription was in the offing deliberately. Here's the whole score

lukeottevanger

Quote from: Guido on April 27, 2008, 03:56:27 PM
Yes do! I've found that CD pretty heavy going on the whole - Ives improvising at his most dissonant, and its all very fragmentary. It's all worth it for that golden version of "the Alcott's" which is just breathtaking in every way.

It's a great CD, though Guido, all in all. Might be my night-time listening tonight. I go for such soothing sounds, you see.....

Guido

Yes I will certainly have to listen to it more often. Thanks for the sheet music.
Geologist.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away