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Offline J.II.9

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XXth century opera
« on: August 16, 2019, 03:20:41 AM »
I only have few of them but I'm generally fond of them. Can you recommend some more? Maybe we can skip the obvious Puccini/Debussy picks...





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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2019, 04:16:08 AM »
Try Janacek - The Makropoulos Case, Katya Kabanova and From The House of the Dead are my favourites. Sir Charles Mackerras has recorded them all but I would also recommend Boulez's DVD of From the House of the Dead

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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2019, 04:56:07 AM »
Some great works IMHO:











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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2019, 06:05:50 AM »
Definitely JanáčekKáťa Kabanová is the one I keep returning to and I'm very fond of Martinů's Julietta as well.

I'm also a big fan of Britten's Gloriana. Quite underrated IMO and it contains one of my all-time favourite arias:

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And then there's Glass' Akhnaten: his whole 'portrait trilogy' is worthwhile but Akhnaten remains a centrepiece of my musical world.


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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2019, 07:44:24 AM »
I'm a big fan of John's Adam's Nixon in China. A great majestic opera. I used to have the original CD release but haven't heard any other productions.


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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2019, 08:38:42 AM »
Most of the ones above are basically c19 operas written in a c20 musical idiom.

 More interesting for me are the works which take the genre by the scruff of the neck, shake it about and get something fresh to come out of the other end.

Prometeo (Nono) moves the genre on. Maybe also Das Mädchen mit den Schwefelhölzern (Lachenmann). I've only seen Donnerstag, but I bet the Licht cycle (Stockhausen) is well worth exploring. A friend of mine really rates Outis (Berio) but I haven't managed to find a version I can follow. I'm sure that the Glass operas in collaboration with Robert Wilson are up to something special dramatically if not musically -- I saw Einstein and Akhnaten.

It's a shame that Cornelius Cardew never wrote an opera proper. Maybe one of the composers who posts here would care to write an opera in the style of The Great Learning.
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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2019, 11:10:08 AM »

Some great works IMHO:


Thanks! Those two looks promising.

There's one more which I like:

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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2019, 06:24:38 PM »
Most of the ones above are basically c19 operas written in a c20 musical idiom.

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It's a shame that Cornelius Cardew never wrote an opera proper. Maybe one of the composers who posts here would care to write an opera in the style of The Great Learning.

But... that would be a c20 opera written in a c21 musical idiom. :)

I see that Le Grand Macabre hasn't been mentioned.




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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2019, 12:44:29 AM »
But... that would be a c20 opera written in a c21 musical idiom. :)



Ah, true.

Anyone here seen Jonathan Harvey’s Wagner Dream? On record it sounds like an interesting opera to me, this opposition of kitsch and spirituality. Given decent direction and design it could be a good night out. I think it’s c20, I haven’t checked.
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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2019, 08:02:26 AM »
If you are looking for something different, exciting and challenging may I suggest the Irish composer Gerald Barry. I have three of his operas; The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, The Importance of Being Earnest and The Intelligence Park.
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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2019, 11:24:12 AM »
Has nobody mentioned Britten yet.

Peter Grimes
Billy Budd
The Turn of the Screw
A Midsummer Night's Dream
The Rape of Lucretia
Gloriana


These would be my favourites. Peter Grimes, Billy Budd and The Turn of the Screw at least are pretty much repertoire staples these days.

Then 

Death in Venice
Albert Herring
Owen Wingrave


Britten is really THE most important figure in post WWII opera.

Also a mention for Stravinsky  - The Rake's Progress and Oedipus Rex and Bartok's Duke Bluebeard's Castle.



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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2019, 01:56:36 PM »
Mark-Anthony Turnage: Greek. Sizzling stuff.



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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2019, 10:10:59 PM »
I find the Hindemith operas (there are many, many of them short) in general very rewarding. Try this superb DVD to get a grip on the idiom:



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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2019, 10:53:50 PM »
If you are looking for something different, exciting and challenging may I suggest the Irish composer Gerald Barry. I have three of his operas; The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant, The Importance of Being Earnest and The Intelligence Park.

I saw The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant in London, I'm sure it was in the c21. Maybe it was written in the c20. I'm a great fan of Fassbinder.
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Re: XXth century opera
« Reply #15 on: Today at 01:09:14 AM »
I saw The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant in London, I'm sure it was in the c21. Maybe it was written in the c20. I'm a great fan of Fassbinder.

You may well be correct there. I will have to check that.
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