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[Mandryka]

First impressions are that this is rather nice and may well have something fresh to say. Particularly in the ornamentation department.


https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/80/000144508.pdf

[staxomega]

Very interested in any comments folks have on Ts'ong since there is also a new box set of his complete CBS Chopin recordings.

The thread Mandryka was referencing: https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,30523.0.html

Chopin's Mazurkas are among the very best I've heard. Chopin's Nocturnes wouldn't quite make my top 5 complete/larger sets but they are excellent as well. I thought I wrote more about the Mazurkas in some thread but I can't find my post in the Chopin thread or the one about the Mazurkas. Everything else I've heard from him has at the least been worth hearing.

The Ts'ong CBS Chopin box is available for preorder and coming out in November.

[Mandryka]

https://www.clicmusique.com/camerata-trajectina-treur-nederland-p-107702.html?osCsid=dc7920247bb2a25cdb6cee75a30a1732

For all people who were Dutchmen in a former life, or this life.

[staxomega]

Beautiful opinion from Hesse, and also very subjective it seems, since there are Chopin recordings by pianists with schooling from Chopin's acquaintances, as well as Liszt pupils (including of course Cortot).

Many pianists that had close lineage to Chopin or Liszt/Kraus played the music more like Ts'ong.

[Brian]

If I ever get a time machine I'm going to go yell at the record company executives who were still recording him in mono in the year 1962.

[Karl Henning]

If I ever get a time machine I'm going to go yell at the record company executives who were still recording him in mono in the year 1962.

Sounds like the Twilight Zone episode in which the lead character tries to get the captain of the Titanic to alter his course, but of course the Capt. thinks the guy is off his head ....

[Florestan]

Beautiful opinion from Hesse, and also very subjective it seems

That's the beautiful mystery and the mysterious beauty of Chopin's music: the more one tries hard to define it, the less one succeeds. In my book he is, along with Liszt, the ultimate Romantic / romantic composer: they had no predecessors but they had dozens of followers. That being said, I prefer the half-Pole to the not-one-bit-Hungarian.   

[Mandryka]

First impressions are that this is rather nice and may well have something fresh to say. Particularly in the ornamentation department.


https://static.qobuz.com/goodies/80/000144508.pdf

Listening to this it occurred to me that there is a Polish school of harpsichord playing, there's something about the colourfulness of her style which makes me think of Swiatkiewicz and Klosiewicz.

[Mandryka]

That's the beautiful mystery and the mysterious beauty of Chopin's music: the more one tries hard to define it, the less one succeeds. In my book he is, along with Liszt, the ultimate Romantic / romantic composer: they had no predecessors but they had dozens of followers. That being said, I prefer the half-Pole to the not-one-bit-Hungarian.   

What do you think of this? Bad sound, very romantic playing. I found it just a couple of days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/v/fGHoHHlNDyw

Re Liszt, I got involved in a discussion about his chromaticism recently, vis-à-vis Tristan, which led me to listen to Lugubre Gondola. It starts off interesting for me, when it feels without any home key,  but doesn't keep it up. There's a lot of those late pieces I've never heard and I'd like to.

[Mandryka]

The whole thing will be released next week I think, there are a couple of tracks on spotify. The first movement of the 6th is, of course, revealing and original.

[Mandryka]

The whole thing will be released this month I think, there are a couple of tracks on spotify. The second movement of the 1029 is, of course, revealing and original.

[Todd]

The Clemens Krauss box looks most intriguing. 

[MusicTurner]

That's the beautiful mystery and the mysterious beauty of Chopin's music: the more one tries hard to define it, the less one succeeds. In my book he is, along with Liszt, the ultimate Romantic / romantic composer: they had no predecessors but they had dozens of followers. That being said, I prefer the half-Pole to the not-one-bit-Hungarian.   

Chopin's '24 Preludes' must be one of the most varied-content opuses from its age, and as such, it surely seems to somehow challenge categorizations, via the variety of moods and designs.

Liszt was the most ambitious of the two, often working with obvious literary, religious, historical or location-orientated inspiration, but it's a good thing that the focus on the most superficial bravura-style pieces by him has diminished in recent decades, for investigating other aspects of his gigantic oeuvre, one of the most ambitious among composers. A layman's guess would be then, that the Annees de Pelerinage I-III would be the cyclic work with most variety by Liszt; or alternatively, the Symphonic Poems, if considered a cycle, and which he didn't orchestrate all by himself. But supposedly it's debatable.

[ritter]

The Clemens Krauss box looks most intriguing.

Some information here:

https://www.youtube.com/v/HuoVsgXUfzM

[Florestan]

Chopin's '24 Preludes' must be one of the most varied-content opuses from its age, and as such, it surely seems to somehow challenge categorizations, via the variety of moods and designs.

Liszt was the most ambitious of the two, often working with obvious literary, religious, historical or location-orientated inspiration, but it's a good thing that the focus on the most superficial bravura-style pieces by him has diminished in recent decades, for investigating other aspects of his gigantic oeuvre, one of the most ambitious among composers. A layman's guess would be then, that the Annees de Pelerinage I-III would be the cyclic work with most variety by Liszt; Or alternatively, the Symphonic Poems, if considered a cycle, and which he didn't orchestrate all by himself. But supposedly it's debatable.

De gustibus non est disputandum.

[MusicTurner]

Changes in personal taste tend to happen slowly, if they take place, via a variety of factors ... 

[Pohjolas Daughter]

How many CD 16s are there?

Hah!
Next month I'm releasing my own 16 CD set where they're all CD 16.

Pd

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Koval was a personal enemy of DSCH.In 1948 Marian Koval wrote a long article in three consecutive issues of Sovetskaya Muzyka titled, "The Creative Path of Shostakovich" in which he found evidence of Formalism in every one of Shostakovich's works.

Interesting.  I hadn't heard of Formalism before now.  Not certain about my sources, so am a bit confused as to what he was claiming Shostakovich's methods/works were/meant?  Sorry to go off track here, just curious.  "In a nutshell" is fine if you would care to answer.

PD

[Pohjolas Daughter]

The Clemens Krauss box looks most intriguing.

Lots of *temptation there!  Markevitch, Kubelik..maybe Collins?

For me anyway.

PD

[Brian]

Lots of *temptation there!  Markevitch, Kubelik..maybe Collins?

For me anyway.

PD

The Markevitch Philips box is flying to me right now, the Sydney Piano Competition compilation has been in my car to accompany trips around town, and I'm definitely intrigued by the Kubelik and Ts'ong.