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Re: Pettersson's Pavilion
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2007, 03:45:03 AM »
I have to agree with Gido, the 2nd VC is pure brilliance. At first it sounded really abstract and random, even for a Pettersson piece, but finally it grew on me, such great melodies. It's hard to get into but really pays off, those melodies will be in your head for a long time!

Btw huge Pettersson fan here, and i haven't even heard half of his work.

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« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2007, 03:54:18 AM »
the last ten minutes or so are amongst the most moving things I know in music.

Agreed completely... it is very powerful, especially since it is an almost "optimistic" conclusion, perhaps the only one in all his work...

 


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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2007, 01:05:19 PM »
I've been listening to Symphony 8 a lot recently.



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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2007, 11:31:59 AM »
Is there a recording of Pettersson's first Symphony? I have listened to all 16 of them (although i do not know them all very wel except for 6-9) but I never see the first mentioned anywhere.

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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2007, 11:45:49 AM »
Another vote for the violin concerto. I hear there's a new disc out on CPO? Mine is the old Ida Handel on Caprice (with the Barefoot Songs - a beauty!).

I think the first symphony's score was destroyed by the composer.

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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2007, 11:46:03 AM »
Is there a recording of Pettersson's first Symphony? I have listened to all 16 of them (although i do not know them all very wel except for 6-9) but I never see the first mentioned anywhere.

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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2007, 11:48:21 AM »
Another vote for the violin concerto. I hear there's a new disc out on CPO? Mine is the old Ida Handel on Caprice (with the Barefoot Songs - a beauty!).

I think the first symphony's score was destroyed by the composer.

There are two Violin concertos, which one are you referring to?
Both concertos on CPO are excellent.

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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2007, 11:52:36 AM »
I was wrong. The first is unfinished, but this link http://www.iapg.de/iapg.htm? even has an mp3 excerpt of the beginning. Quite strange I must say.

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Re: Pettersson's Pavilion
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2007, 10:06:09 PM »
Agreed completely... it is very powerful, especially since it is an almost "optimistic" conclusion, perhaps the only one in all his work...

 



Symphony No 6 has a, kind of, rugged "struggle towards the sunrise" conclusion which I love. I wish Sony would reissue Kamu's LP version on CD and DGG release the Commisionna, Baltimore SO version of No 8.
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2007, 03:20:13 AM »
His 7th symphony is one of the best things I've heard in years, one of my classical discoveries for which I'm most thankful. Just a phenomenal work with staggering emotional power. I hope to buy the CPO box set of his symphonies soon.
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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2007, 03:35:54 AM »
Another vote for the violin concerto. I hear there's a new disc out on CPO? Mine is the old Ida Handel on Caprice

I have this CD.  I remember being traumatized by the concerto and trying to bring it back to the used record store where I bought it.  Luckily, they wouldn't take it back. 8)

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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2007, 09:22:23 AM »
That's just my first impression - from the amount of proponants the piece has here I know I need to listen a few more times. It reminded me of Gorecki's 3rd Symphony in scale and how it used material (and relative slow moving structure).

Gorecki's third is more a continuous Largo,  I don't see that in Pettersson...l.....

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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2007, 09:23:53 AM »
I have to agree with Gido, the 2nd VC is pure brilliance. At first it sounded really abstract and random, even for a Pettersson piece, but finally it grew on me, such great melodies. It's hard to get into but really pays off, those melodies will be in your head for a long time!

Btw huge Pettersson fan here, and i haven't even heard half of his work.

I didn't get that from Guidos post...Perhaps you should read it again...He didnt say it was pure brilliance.

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Re: Pettersson's Pavilion
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2007, 09:39:57 AM »
His 7th symphony is one of the best things I've heard in years, one of my classical discoveries for which I'm most thankful. Just a phenomenal work with staggering emotional power. I hope to buy the CPO box set of his symphonies soon.

Agreed, it is a most profound statement of great art!

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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2007, 05:44:13 PM »
Symphony No 6 has a, kind of, rugged "struggle towards the sunrise" conclusion which I love. I wish Sony would reissue Kamu's LP version on CD and DGG release the Commisionna, Baltimore SO version of No 8.

It's quite nice that it can be interpreted in many ways. I (and many others I know who love this work) see the conclusion as a drawn out painful lament sort of thing only.
As for the Kamu 6th, I have it in an LP-to-mp3 transfer of some kind, somewhat low quality. I prefer the CPO version really...


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Re: Pettersson's Pavilion
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2007, 08:08:36 AM »
It's quite nice that it can be interpreted in many ways. I (and many others I know who love this work) see the conclusion as a drawn out painful lament sort of thing only.
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I hope I'll ever see #6 performed live once in my life. I'm 35, there is a chance :) Keep in mind: "Life without Pettersson #6 is possible, but makes no sense".

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« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2007, 03:47:25 PM »
I understand your enthusiasm. It's almost puzzling that an outwardly rebarbative composer would elicit such devoted following. I, too, believe that # 6 is his most haunting, tragic, deepest work. At other times I feel the same about # 9, though.

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Re: Pettersson's Pavilion
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2007, 06:58:57 AM »
We await Karl's formulation of an opinion with regards to Pettersson 2:

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Re: Pettersson's Pavilion
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2007, 07:01:47 AM »
I'm going to listen more, and so am in no haste to form opinion.

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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2007, 07:09:37 AM »
I'm going to listen more, and so am in no haste to form opinion.

Please share if, at some point, you do happen to formulate an opinion on this or any Pettersson symphony .........  :)