Past Purchases (CLOSED)

[not edward]

Well, my curiosity's piqued. Any particular recordings you recommend?

Not really. I've only heard the four symphonies and Bacchus et Ariane, so I'm no expert. For the last two symphonies, the best interpretation I've heard is Munch on Elatus, but you have to grit your teeth through some pretty scrappy orchestral playing. The Naxos disc and Dutoit's twofer of the four symphonies are both quite good, but I think there's more to be found than either conductor does here. I also have Boulez's NYPO recording of the third symphony, and wouldn't recommend it: I don't think he understands the piece at all.

[Wanderer]

Tasso, what's on the Harnoncourt set? The cover advertises 4 Haydn masses and the Stabat Mater, but that's probably only 4 discs, not 6??

You're quite correct. Apart from the Masses  (Paukenmesse, Nelsonmesse, Schöpfungsmesse, Harmoniemesse) and the Stabat Mater, the set also includes the following works: Salve Regina (Hob.23b:2), Te Deum (Hob.23c:1), Te Deum (Hob.23c:2), the cantata Qual dubbio ormai (Hob.24a:4) and Die sieben letzten Worte unseres Erlösers am Kreuze; plus Schubert's Magnificat D.486 (a very favourite work of mine) and Intende Voci D.963.

What' s that Tasos, are you taking a go at my throne?

Nah, I'm just catching up on my planned purchases. The wish list had become inexcusably long. 

[Hector]

Well, my curiosity's piqued. Any particular recordings you recommend?

The Deneve/Naxos is a good/cheap buy to explore.

If the 3rd Symphony hooks you, then you will want to explore more of this composer's works.

[pjme]

Hi Corey, Roussel is definitely worth exploring.

Claude Rostand sums up : "..he is one of the great personalities of his generation. He reacted against post - Romanticism,  escaped Debussy, avoided d'Indy, was interested in the classical traditions and participated in the renewal of musical language without giving in to the morose pitfalls of neo-Classicism..."
I'm quite fond of two works :

His "Evocations" for soli, chorus and orch. is an early work ( 1911) . Good recordings on EMI and Supraphon. This work depicts three cities in India ( only the last one is vocal ) - a great colourful & subtle score.

the late pianoconcerto (1927): a short ,dynamic piece with a strange, hypnotical ,slow movement . Rostand calls it the first "real, essential" Roussel : concise, rythmical, abstract, muscled,incisive - "classic" - but not neo-Classic .

from the same period : a Sinfonietta for strings, symphonies 3 and 4, the ballets Aeneas (with chorus) and Bacchus and Ariane.

Peter

[PaulR]

Well, this was yesterday, but I was too tired to post it last night when I got home (Long drive home for winter break)

Ives: 2nd and 3rd symphonies, General Booth Enters into Heaven Litton/Dallas Symphony Orchestra
Toch: Complete Symphonies Francis/Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Berlin
Shostakovich: The Execution of Stepin Razin, October, Five Fragments Charles Robert Austin/Schwarz/Stealle Symphony
Shostakovich: Ballet Suites Jarvi/scottish National Orchestra
Tchaikovsky: Suites from Swan lake, The Sleeping Beauty*, and the Nutcracker Mehta/Israel Philharmonic Orchestra *Bonynge/National Philharmonic Orchestra

[Solitary Wanderer]

Just arrived on the doorstep!

[Kullervo]

Hi Corey, Roussel is definitely worth exploring.

Claude Rostand sums up : "..he is one of the great personalities of his generation. He reacted against post - Romanticism,  escaped Debussy, avoided d'Indy, was interested in the classical traditions and participated in the renewal of musical language without giving in to the morose pitfalls of neo-Classicism..."
I'm quite fond of two works :

His "Evocations" for soli, chorus and orch. is an early work ( 1911) . Good recordings on EMI and Supraphon. This work depicts three cities in India ( only the last one is vocal ) - a great colourful & subtle score.

the late pianoconcerto (1927): a short ,dynamic piece with a strange, hypnotical ,slow movement . Rostand calls it the first "real, essential" Roussel : concise, rythmical, abstract, muscled,incisive - "classic" - but not neo-Classic .

from the same period : a Sinfonietta for strings, symphonies 3 and 4, the ballets Aeneas (with chorus) and Bacchus and Ariane.

Peter

The Deneve/Naxos is a good/cheap buy to explore.

If the 3rd Symphony hooks you, then you will want to explore more of this composer's works.

Thanks!

[PerfectWagnerite]

I found this cheap, now I don't have to overpay to get it from Japan.




(just sampling them makes me think they are much better played and not as vicious as his earlier NYPO recordings on mono)



Also bought Bruckner's 1st and 5th Symphonies with Sawallisch and the Bavarian State Orchestra on Orfeo

[Kullervo]

My first Wagner opera!

[Gustav]

I found this cheap, now I don't have to overpay to get it from Japan.




(just sampling them makes me think they are much better played and not as vicious as his earlier NYPO recordings on mono)



Also bought Bruckner's 1st and 5th Symphonies with Sawallisch and the Bavarian State Orchestra on Orfeo

where did you buy all these?

[PerfectWagnerite]

where did you buy all these?

Wand on Amazon. Rest on the streets of NYC

[Lilas Pastia]

You're quite correct. Apart from the Masses  (Paukenmesse, Nelsonmesse, Schöpfungsmesse, Harmoniemesse) and the Stabat Mater, the set also includes the following works: Salve Regina (Hob.23b:2), Te Deum (Hob.23c:1), Te Deum (Hob.23c:2), the cantata Qual dubbio ormai (Hob.24a:4) and Die sieben letzten Worte unseres Erlösers am Kreuze; plus Schubert's Magnificat D.486 (a very favourite work of mine) and Intende Voci D.963.

Well, it's definitely a splendid purchase, even if the box cover is a bit misleading. Why mix the Schuberts with the Haydns ?? I have that Schubert disc and it stands on its own superbly well, a remarkable disc in its  own right. Just as the 7 Last Words is (oratorio version, not my favourite, but probably the best of its kind).

As for the masses, they are arguably the most important of the lot, but the Theresienmesse is nearly on the same level as Nelson and Pauken. But Nikolaus didn't record it... So why not just a 5 disc Haydn coffret?? The mysteries of classical music marketing...   Anyhow, I'l probably end up buying it! 

[Wanderer]

Well, it's definitely a splendid purchase, even if the box cover is a bit misleading. Why mix the Schuberts with the Haydns ?? I have that Schubert disc and it stands on its own superbly well, a remarkable disc in its  own right. Just as the 7 Last Words is (oratorio version, not my favourite, but probably the best of its kind).

As for the masses, they are arguably the most important of the lot, but the Theresienmesse is nearly on the same level as Nelson and Pauken. But Nikolaus didn't record it... So why not just a 5 disc Haydn coffret?? The mysteries of classical music marketing...   Anyhow, I'l probably end up buying it! 

The shorter works were fillers to the original releases of the Masses (e.g. the Schubert works were included in the original release of the Schöpfungsmesse); evidently Warner kept the discs intact that way and merely added the Stabat Mater and Seven Last Words to form a 6-disc set. I have some of these recordings individually and are indeed excellent.

Any suggestions for the remaining Masses (especially the Theresienmesse) now that I've exhausted the Harnoncourt discography? 

[longears]

One day off work and already I've sprung for Jacobs's Don Giovanni, Fournier's Dvorák VCC, Zinman's LvB Missa Solemnis, Herreweghe's Schoenberg reduction of Das Lied von der Erde, and Plasson's disc of tangos by Gardel.

Sigh.

[Harry]

One day off work and already I've sprung for Jacobs's Don Giovanni, Fournier's Dvorák VCC, Zinman's LvB Missa Solemnis, Herreweghe's Schoenberg reduction of Das Lied von der Erde, and Plasson's disc of tangos by Gardel.

Sigh.

Youre done for........

[Haffner]

My first Wagner opera!

Dude, you are so jamming. Love those recordings.

[Que]

One day off work and already I've sprung for Jacobs's Don Giovanni, ..

I think you'll enjoy that - great recording IMO, which rethinks the character of the work and of the roles in it. I find the result convincing and natural.

Q

[Wanderer]

Just arrived on the doorstep!

Excellent! What have you listened to so far, any impressions?

[M forever]

I think you'll enjoy that - great recording IMO, which rethinks the character of the work and of the roles in it. I find the result convincing and natural.

Q

Are you familiar with Östman's recording? If so, what do you think of it and can you compare it to this one?

I got this yesterday:



Karajan's only recording with the Staatskapelle Dresden, apart from some live Salzburg concerts.
EMI wanted to record the Brahms symphonies, too, but that never materialized.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I got this yesterday:

Lucky you - that's my favourite 'Meistersinger'...