Mahler was a gasbag

Started by lisa needs braces, July 01, 2009, 05:55:34 AM

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CRCulver

Quote from: -abe- on July 01, 2009, 05:55:34 AM
Why is he popular?

I can understand why some might like him. But I hate the idea that he is the greatest and most universally appealing composer of his time. I've listened to most of Mahler's symphonies, and while I can appreciate the construction of them, they don't do much for me.

I usually review the discs I listen to on Amazon, but I haven't with e.g. Mahler's Fifth (which I've heard most of all), because I don't want to get jumped on by everyone else for giving it the only personal evaluation I honestly can: average.

Dr. Dread

You should have said: "long-winded gasbag".  ;D

karlhenning

Quote from: CRCulver on July 01, 2009, 06:09:20 AM
I can understand why some might like him. But I hate the idea that he is the greatest and most universally appealing composer of his time. . . .

I don't think I've ever heard even the most ardent Mahler fan make any such claim — But maybe I just tuned it out  8)

QuoteI usually review the discs I listen to on Amazon, but I haven't with e.g. Mahler's Fifth (which I've heard most of all), because I don't want to get jumped on by everyone else for giving it the only personal evaluation I honestly can: average.

But, maybe Mahler fans will agree that the recording is average!  8)

Todd

Quote from: CRCulver on July 01, 2009, 06:09:20 AMI usually review the discs I listen to on Amazon, but I haven't with e.g. Mahler's Fifth (which I've heard most of all), because I don't want to get jumped on by everyone else for giving it the only personal evaluation I honestly can: average.



Average compared to whom? 
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Diletante

Quote from: CRCulver on July 01, 2009, 06:09:20 AM
I can understand why some might like him. But I hate the idea that he is the greatest and most universally appealing composer of his time.

Just for fun: Who is, in your opinion, the greatest and most universally appealing composer of that time?
Orgullosamente diletante.

Todd

Quote from: tanuki on July 01, 2009, 06:31:07 AMJust for fun: Who is, in your opinion, the greatest and most universally appealing composer of that time?



My money's on Reger.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

lisa needs braces

More info: I love the final movement of his fourth symphony. And a certain moment from the second symphony. Everything else is unnecessary.


karlhenning

"Unnecessary." Well, but isn't all art? And isn't that part of the point?

Lethevich

Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

lisa needs braces

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 01, 2009, 06:58:33 AM
"Unnecessary." Well, but isn't all art? And isn't that part of the point?

Yes, but some art (the bad kind) is more unnecessary than others.


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karlhenning

Quote from: -abe- on July 01, 2009, 07:15:35 AM
A most apt depiction of Mahler fans.

No, just of unnecessary art.

Dr. Dread


karlhenning

Quote from: MN Dave on July 01, 2009, 07:19:50 AM
Art sucks.

Been listening to too much Beethoven lately, fella?  8)

Lethevich

Quote from: -abe- on July 01, 2009, 07:15:35 AM
A most apt depiction of Mahler fans.

Mahler fans are more along these lines:

Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

lisa needs braces

There was a tv program about composers on some arts channel. The intro of it would have Music from Bach...Mozart...LvB...and Mahler. The former were all recognizable tunes. The latter's was a blare as bland as (nearly) everything else he's written. It always made me chuckle.

Down with Mahler.




karlhenning

Alternatively . . . .

Quote from: MN Dave on July 01, 2009, 07:19:50 AM
Art sucks.

Channeling Paul Simon, are we?

Dr. Dread

Maybe abe's just not into neurotic music. It happens.