What - no thread about how the moon landings were faked?

[Joe Barron]

There was also the problem of moon dust. If you've ever seen the commercial where they show an astronaut leaving a footprint on the moon, you'll see a swirl of dust. This is proof it was done in a studio: on the airless moon, any dust kicked up by a footstep would drop back to the surface like a fistful of lead pellets, which is exactly what you see on tapes of the moon walks. Well, I guess they could have sucked the air out of the studio ...

But Christ, I hope Rob is kidding.

[Rod Corkin]

That Handel is the superior composer, obviously.

Well I think I have demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt, if not here then elsewhere, but that is not the logical deduction from this conundrum. You guys make Rob out to be something of a loon, and Rob is a JS Bach super-fan. Is there a connection between the two?

[Elgarian]

Mr. Newman, here is a description of the cooling system used for the astronaut suits.

I'm afraid Mr Newman isn't likely to be interested in actual physics - witness his seemingly wilful ignorance of the radiation problem, despite the offerings of myself and Mr Mensch in that regard. I think it's the new discipline, 'Conspiracy Physics', that attracts him.

[The new erato]

With this, Sean's various threads, the chemtrail thread and the Mozart madness probably soon to be unlocked again, we desperately need an option to mark threads as "do not show". Any hope before this forum is totally derailed?

[MishaK]

Take a deep breath. And face the facts. You have less knowledge of physics than a cheeseburger.

That quote is priceless!

But either way, my cheeseburger level mental acuity is still more than sufficient when my interlocutor is a peanut.

As for discussing other conspiracy theories, sure, why not open one for each ? As I've often suggested. Because this one is on the fake moon landings. A subject which includes the following -

I did. I eagerly await your learned contributions on the subject of chemtrails.  

[bwv 1080]

That quote is priceless!

But either way, my cheeseburger level mental acuity is still more than sufficient when my interlocutor is a peanut.

What's the potential quantum computing power of a cheeseburger?  it may be a complement

[Lethevich]

Well I think I have demonstrated that beyond reasonable doubt, if not here then elsewhere, but that is not the logical deduction from this conundrum. You guys make Rob out to be something of a loon, and Rob is a JS Bach super-fan. Is there a connection between the two?

Well, we must think of all the false attibutions to Bach over history - perhaps even his most famous work (BWV 565) is a fake, or "cartoon". He is certainly the product of several composers working under the name J.S. Bach, with the real Bach himself being only a minor talent.

[Brian]

I think the evidence suggests you believe in more conspiracy theories than I do. Let me list them -

1. You believe in the 'OFFICIAL' 9/11 Report (which is, officially, in its own text, a 'conspiracy'). That's ONE, Brian.
2. You believe Apollo moon landings were factual, even although the mass of the evidence shows they are fiction. That's TWO, Brian.

That's two, to start with. Right ?

Okay, that's two to start with. But you're up to 4. 9/11, moon landings, Shakespeare, and let's not forget, Mozart.

[karlhenning]

Okay, that's two to start with. But you're up to 4. 9/11, moon landings, Shakespeare, and let's not forget, Mozart.

Just reading Newman use the phrase the mass of the evidence is a day-long belly-laugh 

[greg]

Maybe Rob Newman himself is a conspiracy theory. I don't know for what, yet, though- maybe one for the good this time, since whenever I read his posts and think of how much my life sucks, I start thinking, "wait, I could be this guy..."

[robnewman]

Mr. Newman, here is a description of the cooling system used for the astronaut suits. Are you so kind to show us what's wrong with it and why it wouldn't work? Thank you.

How could the astronauts survive in the heat of the Moon's day? Objects that are heated cannot be cooled by space.

This is true, to a point, however spacesuits can radiate heat. All objects above absolute zero radiate heat; therefore some of the heat energy received from the Sun is radiated back into space as infrared rays. Also, much of the Sun's radiant energy can be reflected away. The astronaut's spacesuits were white because this color reflects the most radiation, thereby minimizing the amount absorbed. Finally, the spacesuits were equipped with a cooling system that utilized water as a medium to carry away excess heat.

The cooling system consisted of a cooling garment worn by the astronaut, a heat exchanger, and a porous plate sublimator. Water was circulated through tubes in the cooling garment where it absorbed heat from the astronaut's body and then carried it to the heat exchanger in the backpack. As water passed through the heat exchanger, heat was transferred to a layer of ice on the surface of the porous plate sublimator causing the ice to sublimate and the resulting gas carried away the unwanted heat. The ice was replaced by continually seeping a small amount of water through holes in the metal plate of the sublimator. When the water was exposed to the vacuum of space, the sudden drop in pressure caused it to immediately freeze onto the plate's surface.

And the power source of this amazing cooling system for lunar astronauts walking on the surface of the moon was what ?

(We can then do a mathematical calculation on the power that would be required for such a system. It's sheer nonsense).

[robnewman]

Maybe Rob Newman himself is a conspiracy theory. I don't know for what, yet, though- maybe one for the good this time, since whenever I read his posts and think of how much my life sucks, I start thinking, "wait, I could be this guy..."

Yup, you watch these films of the moon landings being faked in a studio and you think to yourself, 'wait, I could be this guy'. You are so right !

Greg IS a conspiracy theory ! He genuinely can't see what is in front of his nose !!  And it's amazing. What shall we show him next ?

Ah, yes !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TWiJQhaajA&feature=related

and also -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUOItuKm5UE&feature=related

[robnewman]

I'm afraid Mr Newman isn't likely to be interested in actual physics - witness his seemingly wilful ignorance of the radiation problem, despite the offerings of myself and Mr Mensch in that regard. I think it's the new discipline, 'Conspiracy Physics', that attracts him.

Elgarian believes that in 1969 the Apollo astronauts spent days in outer space resisting being cooked alive by Solar Radiation by using a thin sheet of aluminium. It's laughable, but hey, if you can't see it's nonsense, that it lacks any common sense, even after seeing studio film of Apollo fakery, what can one say ?

We hope that Elgarian can recover from his Apollonian daydream.  

Maybe he believes the Van Allen Belt is the SOURCE of Solar Radiation ? 

[robnewman]

Okay, that's two to start with. But you're up to 4. 9/11, moon landings, Shakespeare, and let's not forget, Mozart.

Brian,

If you can tell us why William Shakespeare of Stratford on Avon wrote the plays attributed to him you could make a lot of money here in England giving lectures. Men like you are very rare. Honest !!! They never show up.

As for Mozart, well, you can speak first....... - a fair and open debate on the subject would be amazing. Just set it up Brian - I'll be there as you like. It would be great for audiences to judge.

[robnewman]

This thread is really funny and sad at the same time.

Yes Greg,

It gets funnier and sadder all the time !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTMAhOvXgsg

[Herman]

O Mensch,

Take a deep breath. And face the facts. You have less knowledge of physics than a cheeseburger.

Don't misunderestimate the cheeseburger, please.

Some of them come from the (what was it?) the Royal School of Music  -  you can look it up.

Oh no, you can't!

[robnewman]

Don't misunderestimate the cheeseburger, please.

Some of them come from the (what was it?) the Royal School of Music  -  you can look it up.

Oh no, you can't!

Herman can't stop diverting us from the Fake Moon Landings. It's very sad. He's having a bad day at the office.

Try this Herman -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTMAhOvXgsg

[bwv 1080]

Its obvious the moon landings were fake - here is definitive proof from the great Dharmic Religion:


http://krishna.org/man-on-the-moon-a-colossal-hoax-that-cost-billions-of-dollars/

The Vedic account of our planetary system is already researched, concluded, and perfect. The Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore, even if we accept the modern calculation of 93 million miles as the distance from the earth to the sun, how could the "astronauts" have traveled to the moon–a distance of almost 94 million miles–in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the Apollo 11 moon trip)? This would require an average speed of more than one million miles per hour for the spacecraft, a patently impossible feat by even the space scientists' calculations.
Another important reason why the manned moon landing must be a hoax is that, according to the Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one planet to another without becoming properly qualified. This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for instance, he has to give up his present gross material body and acquire another one suitable for life on that particular planet. Vedic knowledge teaches that the living being doesn't die with the death of the body, but that he is an eternal spirit soul. As Lord Krishna says in the Bhagavad-gita, "As the embodied soul continually passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death" (Bhagavad-gita, 2.13). At the time of death the human being transfers to another material body according to the desires he cultivated and the work he performed during his lifetime. Therefore, since the moon has a particular standard of life and atmosphere, if one wants to travel there he has to adapt his material body to the conditions of that planet.
Even on the earth planet these restrictions hold true. For example, a human being cannot possibly live in the water nor can a fish live on land. These are the rigid conditions of life, and any attempt to defy them is artificial and will fail. Similarly, just as you have to change your dress if you want to go from India to Europe, where the climatic conditions are different, so you also have to change your physical "dress" if you want to go to the specialized atmosphere of the moon. In other words, if you want to go to the moon or the sun or any other higher planet, you can keep your finer dress of mind, intelligence, and ego, but you have to leave behind your gross dress (your physical body) made of earth, water, fire, and other material elements, and acquire a body suitable for your destination.
Of course, none of this will help you solve the real problem of life–entrapment in the vicious cycle of birth and death. As Krsna states in the Bhagavad-gita, even if one transfers in his next life to a very elevated position in the highest planet in the universe, Brahmaloka, he will still have to experience birth and death. The goal of human life is to free the soul from its continuous transmigration among different species of life on various planets, and to transfer to the spiritual planets, where life is eternal. To reach these planets, a complete change of both gross and subtle bodies is necessary, for one can reach the spiritual sky only in a spiritual form. We will elaborate on this a little later, but our point here is that you cannot simply force yourself onto another planet without the proper qualification.

[robnewman]

The dunces keep changing the subject. Guess they don't like the documentary evidence.

[The new erato]

The dunces keep changing the subject. Guess they don't like the documentary evidence.

You wouldn't recognize the concept of documented evidence if it bit you in the ass.