Most multiple recordings you have?

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Mark

Quote from: O Mensch on June 10, 2007, 03:10:31 PM
No, I haven't. How does it differ from his Concertgebouw version (which generally is considered his finest by critics)?

Okay, you got me. No idea. But it blew me away. The work suddenly 'made sense' to me once I'd heard that recording.

I'd wrestle bigger men than me to keep it in my collection.

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 10, 2007, 03:02:05 PM
All those Symphonie Fantastiques and missing the only one anyone really needs: Norrington and the London Classical Players.

;D :D ;D

Sarge

Oh god, please... Not the LCP who fluffs every bar of that work it seams.

MishaK

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on June 10, 2007, 03:14:21 PM
Oh god, please... Not the LCP who fluffs every bar of that work it seams.

;D Indeed, if there is one work that absolutely demands first rate virtuosity, this is it. One of the main reasons why I have so many recordings of it.

George

Quote from: O Mensch on June 10, 2007, 03:16:50 PM
;D Indeed, if there is one work that absolutely demands first rate virtuosity, this is it. One of the main reasons why I have so many recordings of it.

your top 5?

MishaK

Quote from: George on June 10, 2007, 03:27:14 PM
your top 5?

As I said:

Pretre/VSO
Markevitch/BPO
Jansons/Concertgebouw
Cluytens/ORTF
Barenboim - take your pick between the OdP and CSO recordings - avoid the BPO version

There are a number of others absolutely worth hearing, such as MTT/SFSO, Gardiner/OReR, Kempe/BPO. But overall, Pretre and Markevitch (BPO, not Lamoureux) are hard to better.

George

Quote from: O Mensch on June 10, 2007, 03:35:22 PM
As I said:

Pretre/VSO
Markevitch/BPO
Jansons/Concertgebouw
Cluytens/ORTF
Barenboim - take your pick between the OdP and CSO recordings - avoid the BPO version

There are a number of others absolutely worth hearing, such as MTT/SFSO, Gardiner/OReR, Kempe/BPO. But overall, Pretre and Markevitch (BPO, not Lamoureux) are hard to better.

Thanks, my bad. I missed that.  :-\

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: O Mensch on June 10, 2007, 01:33:24 PM
You absolutely must add Boulez/CSO to that list.

That good, eh?

To be honest, I'm not too familiar with Boulez's Bartok. Currently I only have that PC disc with three different soloists. It is a good effort, though.

Based on that and your rec, O, I'll give Boulez's CfO serious consideration!


Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 10, 2007, 02:57:54 PM
You got rid of Frederica!!!  :o  I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

Sarge

0:)

Unfortunately she was teamed up with the K man and had to go! ;D


Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

MishaK

Quote from: O Mensch on June 10, 2007, 01:31:07 PM
The one of which I have the most recordings is Symphonie fantastique. Well over twenty at last count. Off the top of my head, not being home to verify:

Abbado CSO
Ansermet OSR
Barenboim OdB
Barenboim BPO
Barenboim CSO
van Beinum RCO
Bernstein NYPO
Cluytens ORTF
Davis RCO
Gardiner OReR
Haitink VPO
Jansons RCO
Jansons BPO
Kempe BPO
Marekvich BPO
Martinon ORTF
Monteux SFSO
Munch BSO
Ormandy Philly
Pretre VSO
Solti CSO 1970
Solti CSO 1991
Stokowski
Tilson Thomas SFSO

I forgot to add:

Bernstein/OdP
Kubelik/BRSO
Mackerras/RPO
Muti/Philly

71 dB

Elgar - Enigma Variations Op. 36 - 7 recordings

...For Orchestra:

Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra / George Hurst / Naxos 8.553564
Royal Albert Hall Orchestra / Edward Elgar / Naxos 8.111022
CSR Symphony Orchestra / Adrian Leaper / Naxos 8.550229
London Philharmonic Orchestra / Leonard Slatkin / RCA
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Zubin Mehta / Belart (Decca)


...For Piano:

Ashley Wass, Piano / Naxos 8.570166
María Garzón, Piano / ASV CD DCA 1065


I have also 6 versions of Elgar's Salut d'Amour Op. 12, Chanson de Matin Op. 15, No. 2 and Dream Children Op. 43 because these "fillers" are included in almost every Elgar disc.
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PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: 71 dB on June 12, 2007, 03:47:15 PM
Elgar - Enigma Variations Op. 36 - 7 recordings

...For Orchestra:

Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra / George Hurst / Naxos 8.553564
Royal Albert Hall Orchestra / Edward Elgar / Naxos 8.111022
CSR Symphony Orchestra / Adrian Leaper / Naxos 8.550229
London Philharmonic Orchestra / Leonard Slatkin / RCA
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Zubin Mehta / Belart (Decca)


...For Piano:

Ashley Wass, Piano / Naxos 8.570166
María Garzón, Piano / ASV CD DCA 1065


I have also 6 versions of Elgar's Salut d'Amour Op. 12, Chanson de Matin Op. 15, No. 2 and Dream Children Op. 43 because these "fillers" are included in almost every Elgar disc.

Wow ! Naxos has 3 recordings of the Enigma? How strange.
You should get Bernstein with the BBC Symphony, it will be different dramatically from all the other versions you have I bet.

MishaK

Quote from: 71 dB on June 12, 2007, 03:47:15 PM
Elgar - Enigma Variations Op. 36 - 7 recordings

...For Orchestra:

Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra / George Hurst / Naxos 8.553564
Royal Albert Hall Orchestra / Edward Elgar / Naxos 8.111022
CSR Symphony Orchestra / Adrian Leaper / Naxos 8.550229
London Philharmonic Orchestra / Leonard Slatkin / RCA
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Zubin Mehta / Belart (Decca)


And you don't have Rattle/CBSO or Boult or Barbirolli? Tsk, tsk...

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: O Mensch on June 10, 2007, 03:10:31 PM
O, I heard that recording and decided that if there is one recording of Op.14 I don't need, that must be the one.  >:D 

I know. We've discussed it before. I was teasing.  ;D

It is strange though: the one Fantastique you absolutely cannot stand is the one I absolutely would not want to be without. I could let any other version I own go...easily. Norrington's is the only truly unique Fantastique. Nothing else like it.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on June 10, 2007, 03:14:21 PM
Oh god, please... Not the LCP who fluffs every bar of that work it seams.

Oh, PW, they do not!  :D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

MishaK

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 12, 2007, 04:09:04 PM
Oh, PW, they do not!  :D

They do, too. It makes my ears hurt. Sorry, but I must insist on half decent intonation and ensemble coordination in this work at least.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: O Mensch on June 12, 2007, 04:10:12 PM
They do, too. It makes my ears hurt. Sorry, but I must insist on half decent intonation and ensemble coordination in this work at least.

My ears hear it differently. I believe your memory of the performance is quite faulty, O. The last time we discussed this, I dug out the old reviews. Not one mentioned these problems.

But it doesn't matter. You'll never hear it again. Your ears are safe  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 12, 2007, 04:09:04 PM
Oh, PW, they do not!  :D

Sarge


The LCP is okay in Beethoven, they bring some nice touches but if take them as an ensemble judge their standards against other professional orchestras (instead of HIP ensembles) then even most college orchestras completely outclass them. Hell Hogwood's AAM and Gardiner's ORR is 10x better in terms to tonal beauty and rhythmic precision.

Berlioz, is, unfortunately, beyond the ability of this rather amateurish bunch. It is not an indictment. There are orchestras that cannot play Mahler, just so happens that this bunch can't plan Berlioz.

Turner

#137
Probably Le Sacre du Printemps, where I have accumulated 31 recordings.

A few of of them mainly due to an interesting LP cover design, though. I do not plan du buy any further ones, unless a sensational Mravinsky, Mengelberg, Celibidache or Scherchen recording turns up, or likewise an LP cover by Miro, Cocteau or the like.

71 dB

Quote from: MishaK on June 12, 2007, 03:57:34 PM
And you don't have Rattle/CBSO or Boult or Barbirolli? Tsk, tsk...

Almost a decade later I can tell have Boult and Barbirolli:

For orchestra:

Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra / George Hurst / Naxos 8.553564
London Symphony Orchestra / Sir Adrian Boult / EMI
Philharmonic Orchestra / Sir John Barbirolli / EMI
Royal Albert Hall Orchestra / Edward Elgar / Naxos 8.111022
CSR Symphony Orchestra / Adrian Leaper / Naxos 8.550229
London Philharmonic Orchestra / Leonard Slatkin / RCA
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Zubin Mehta / Belart (Decca)

For Piano:

María Garzón, Piano / ASV CD DCA 1065
Ashley Wass, Piano / Naxos 8.570166

So, 9 recordings of  Enigma Variations.  8)
Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW Jan. 2024 "Harpeggiator"

kishnevi

Quote from: 71 dB on December 17, 2016, 10:23:17 AM
Almost a decade later I can tell have Boult and Barbirolli:

For orchestra:

Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra / George Hurst / Naxos 8.553564
London Symphony Orchestra / Sir Adrian Boult / EMI
Philharmonic Orchestra / Sir John Barbirolli / EMI
Royal Albert Hall Orchestra / Edward Elgar / Naxos 8.111022
CSR Symphony Orchestra / Adrian Leaper / Naxos 8.550229
London Philharmonic Orchestra / Leonard Slatkin / RCA
Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Zubin Mehta / Belart (Decca)

For Piano:

María Garzón, Piano / ASV CD DCA 1065
Ashley Wass, Piano / Naxos 8.570166

So, 9 recordings of  Enigma Variations.  8)

What is the piano version like?

I do suggest you try the Bernstein recording mentioned upthread. You may like it or you may hate it: but it certainly different.

TD
I have roughly 40 recordings of Mahler 2 and Mahler 9, and probably at least as many as that of Beethoven 9, since I have about 35 complete LvB symphony cycles.