Interesting romantic composers

Started by Henk, August 05, 2009, 10:28:53 AM

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Henk

Who are composers in 20th century or contemporary who are influenced by Beethoven, Chopin, Schubert, Mendelssohn or Debussy instead of Liszt, Wagner, Mahler etc.? They are imo the more interesting composers.

karlhenning

The subject header for this question baffles me.

(Just saying.)

Tapkaara

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 05, 2009, 10:47:57 AM
The subject header for this question baffles me.

(Just saying.)

I was going to say the same thing...

Dr. Dread


Henk

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 05, 2009, 10:47:57 AM
The subject header for this question baffles me.

(Just saying.)

Always to complain something... Better now?

Fëanor

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 05, 2009, 10:47:57 AM
The subject header for this question baffles me.

(Just saying.)

"Interesting Romantic" = oxymoron, no??

Franco

Quote from: Henk on August 05, 2009, 10:28:53 AM
Who are composers in 20th century or contemporary who are influenced by Beethoven, Chopin, Schubert, Mendelssohn or Debussy instead of Liszt, Wagner, Mahler etc.? They are imo the more interesting composers.

I'd say just about all of them.  With the possible exception of John Cage.

karlhenning

Quote from: Henk on August 05, 2009, 10:53:54 AM
Always to complain something... Better now?

How about "Romantic music interesting to Henk"?  ;)

Dr. Dread

To henk or not to henk, that is the question.

karlhenning

Reminds me of a Chinese restaurant which is (or used to be?) on Harvard Square: House of Yenching

Personally, I may never have needed to yench, but I'm glad they have a house for it.

Tapkaara

No henky panky in this thread, please.

greg

Quote from: Henk on August 05, 2009, 10:28:53 AM
Who are composers in 20th century or contemporary who are influenced by Beethoven, Chopin, Schubert, Mendelssohn or Debussy instead of Liszt, Wagner, Mahler etc.? I think they would be They are imo the more interesting composers.
Ummm... it might sound better if you write it like this, so people aren't confused.
You sound like this guy who (i'm almost certain) had Down Syndrome, who I used to see at the library frequently. He was talking to this lady who worked there with me.
"Um, have you seen this movie? I've never seen it before. I really like it."
"Well, how can you say you like it when you've never seen it?!"  ;D

Henk

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 05, 2009, 11:22:40 AM
How about "Romantic music interesting to Henk"?  ;)

Okay,okay. But what was wrong then with the previous subject-header?

Henk

Henk

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Quote from: Greg on August 05, 2009, 12:07:24 PM
Ummm... it might sound better if you write it like this, so people aren't confused.
You sound like this guy who (i'm almost certain) had Down Syndrome, who I used to see at the library frequently. He was talking to this lady who worked there with me.
"Um, have you seen this movie? I've never seen it before. I really like it."
"Well, how can you say you like it when you've never seen it?!"  ;D

I realize, but I don't mind much. I have just some expactations about composers, because it tells me a lot by what composers they were influenced. Wagner influence, and the whole scene around him (Bruckner, Mahler, Strauss) is bad by definition. I don't (want to) like that music for some reasons I explained earlier.

Henk

ChamberNut


Henk

#15
People, I continue to listen to music I suspect of being inferior. I know that that's more a thought then that it's based on (much) listening. Don't let there be misunderstanding about this. However I have explained what are the things I'm aware of when listening to classical music. I think that's well explained and I've argumented that it are rather beliefs then arguments. It's important for me however to stay as little prejudiced as possible while listening. I want to hear what's bad in "bad music", and what's good in "good music".

The thing is however that music can seduce you, so you can't hear what's bad in it, when seduced you think it's beautiful. So you have to take care of this in some way.

Henk

greg

Quote from: Henk on August 05, 2009, 12:14:56 PM
Wagner influence, and the whole scene around him (Bruckner, Mahler, Strauss) is bad by definition. I don't (want to) like that music for some reasons I explained earlier.

Henk
ummm yeah, okay...

Henk

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Quote from: Greg on August 05, 2009, 12:53:02 PM
ummm yeah, okay...

But please read this post http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,13801.msg341895.html#msg341895 (previous to yours).

EDIT:

I will listen to Wagner again (in fact the first classical cd I bought was by Wagner) and also Mahler (your favourite) and even will try to like them (with the risk of being seduced by bad music, with the lie of being music of distinction then) with just a bit reserve.

Henk

greg

I really don't see anything wrong with that style of music when most people are listening to country, death metal and rap...

Henk

Quote from: Greg on August 05, 2009, 01:04:01 PM
I really don't see anything wrong with that style of music when most people are listening to country, death metal and rap...

So you only listen to classical music to distinguish from people who listen to popular music? I see no other outcome when you put it like this.