Beethoven in Period Performances

[The new erato]

Now THIS is a sure buy! The previous issue is a favorite.

[Rod Corkin]

Now THIS is a sure buy! The previous issue is a favorite.

This is what I've been waiting for for a long time. I've been promoting the '6th concerto' for years but largely to deaf ears. On period instruments it should be great, as long the usual pedestrian tempi we hear with the violin version are not applied (apart from Bruggen's recording, he gets the tempi right). I will be annoyed if they do not use Beethoven's fortepiano and drum cadenza.

[Que]

This is what I've been waiting for for a long time. I've been promoting the '6th concerto' for years but largely to deaf ears. On period instruments it should be great, as long the usual pedestrian tempi we hear with the violin version are not applied (apart from Bruggen's recording, he gets the tempi right). I will be annoyed if they do not use Beethoven's fortepiano and drum cadenza.

Are you always that cheerful when you get good news? 

Q

[Rod Corkin]

Are you always that cheerful when you get good news? 

Q

The news will only be as good as the recording, and for that we will have to wait and see, or rather hear. In their previous Beethoven CD, the 5th Concerto is probably the best there is, but the 4th is rather lackluster in the first and second movements. I still rate Badura-Skoda's the best version of the 4th to date, but there is room for a better account.

[M forever]

I still rate Badura-Skoda's the best version of the 4th to date, but there is room for a better account.

Is that because that's the only other recording you know?

[Rod Corkin]

Is that because that's the only other recording you know?

You're totally out of your league so don't embarrass yourself.

Really you've got to grow up M, I've paid good money for the best of all the old school stuff. You name it, I've bought it (and I've given most of those away). Kempff, Brendel, Gilels etc etc. Considering the HIP scene please add Immerseel, Levin and Lubin in addition to Schoonderwoerd and Badura-Skoda to the list

[M forever]

You're totally out of your league so don't embarrass yourself.

Out of what league? The league of hollow crap talkers? You are right, you are completely untouchable when it comes to that. Even the silliest stuff I sometimes come up with can't compare in dumbness to the nosense you come up with all the time - and which you apparently mean totally seriously.

[Brian]

HOT HIP Beethoven news I just received from Gurn!

To be released! (1st of July in Europe) (That concerto no. 6 is the piano version of the violin concerto - just listen to the sample).



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Q

Is the whole cycle as wonderful as this is? I might have to dig out of my wallet, immediately!

[Gurn Blanston]

Is the whole cycle as wonderful as this is? I might have to dig out of my wallet, immediately!

There is just one other so far, I anticipate a total of 3. The current one is concertos 4 & 5. it's a peach.



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Listening to:
Ancerl - Czech PO / Ancerl - Op 72a Leonore Overture #3

[Que]

Is the whole cycle as wonderful as this is? I might have to dig out of my wallet, immediately!

There is just one other so far, I anticipate a total of 3. The current one is concertos 4 & 5. it's a peach.

Brian, this is the one:


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Check these earlier comments:
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,145.msg124368.html#msg124368
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,145.msg108943.html#msg108943

Q

[Opus106]

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Is that heavy breath-intake I hear?

[FideLeo]

Is that heavy breath-intake I hear?

Yes and I suppose it was a "get go" sign from Schoonderwoerd for his band.

[Rod Corkin]

Out of what league? The league of hollow crap talkers? You are right, you are completely untouchable when it comes to that. Even the silliest stuff I sometimes come up with can't compare in dumbness to the nosense you come up with all the time - and which you apparently mean totally seriously.

I was talking absolutely seriously about the Badura-Skoda recording being the best so far but you were not mature enough to respond to my comment in a sensible manner. So what am I supposed to expect of you, that you actually know anything?? I was promoting the first Cristofori CD ages ago, long before anyone else, even before it was released in my own country. So if you think I am talking nonsense then the others involved in this thread must be idiots too.

[ChamberNut]

Question for the HIPpies:

Is it really 'HIP' if it's all recorded on state-of-the-art 21st century technology??  Shouldn't it be recorded the old-fashioned way?

[Opus106]

Question for the HIPpies:

Is it really 'HIP' if it's all recorded on state-of-the-art 21st century technology??  Shouldn't it be recorded the old-fashioned way?

You mean like they way used to do it in the 1820s? 

As an aspiring HIPie, I think it's only the performance that counts. If it's HIP and HIR, then you have a good  point.

[ChamberNut]

You mean like they way used to do it in the 1820s? 

Exactly.

[Opus106]

Exactly.

I just added a note to my previous post.

[Wanderer]

Is it really 'HIP' if it's all recorded on state-of-the-art 21st century technology??  Shouldn't it be recorded the old-fashioned way?

You're thinking about HIR.

HIP is about performances, not recordings.

[ChamberNut]

You're thinking about HIR.

HIP is about performances, not recordings.

Good point!   

[Rod Corkin]

You're thinking about HIR.

HIP is about performances, not recordings.

Bad point. You can't have a recording without a performance.