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Re: Nikolay Miaskovsky (1881-1950)
« Reply #380 on: August 13, 2019, 12:09:49 AM »
Something that I noticed, and idk if it's in line with the actual no. of movements in the symphony, but Nos. 2 & 3, in the Svetlanov recordings, are both cast in two movements. In No. 2, they are 20 and 25 minutes respectively, and in No. 3, 13 and 33 minutes. Making the "finale" (?) of No. 3 one of the longer movements in the symphonic repertoire.
No. 3 is in two movements of 20 and 25 minutes each. No. 2 is in three movements (Allegro, Molto sostenuto, Allegro con fuoco) with the middle movement being the longest; the movement break is pretty obvious when you listen to the recording. In any case the Symphony-Ballade (No. 22) is even longer, and a single unbroken movement, at about 36 minutes.

I honestly don't have a problem with listening to the Myaskovsky symphonies in order although my favourites tend to be in the first half of his output (3, 5, 10, 11, 13)

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Re: Nikolay Miaskovsky (1881-1950)
« Reply #381 on: August 13, 2019, 12:17:11 AM »
No. 3 is in two movements of 20 and 25 minutes each. No. 2 is in three movements (Allegro, Molto sostenuto, Allegro con fuoco) with the middle movement being the longest; the movement break is pretty obvious when you listen to the recording. In any case the Symphony-Ballade (No. 22) is even longer, and a single unbroken movement, at about 36 minutes.

I honestly don't have a problem with listening to the Myaskovsky symphonies in order although my favourites tend to be in the first half of his output (3, 5, 10, 11, 13)

Although I only included 3 (which I rate very highly) in my list above I also like 5 and 11 and am just getting to appreciate the more modernist (IMO) 13 which is included on the new Naxos release.
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« Reply #382 on: August 13, 2019, 12:38:20 AM »
Although I only included 3 (which I rate very highly) in my list above I also like 5 and 11 and am just getting to appreciate the more modernist (IMO) 13 which is included on the new Naxos release.
No. 3 is a symphony in the mold of Scriabin's Poem of Ecstasy, although in my view Myaskovsky's craftsmanship exceeds Scriabin's even if his ideas may be less brilliant. The final funeral march is my favourite passage among his symphonies I think.

Nos. 5 and 11 are very "Russian school" a la the Mighty Kuchka, in an updated, more modern style, and both have beautiful slow movements. To be honest the slow movements are pretty consistently the best parts of Myaskovsky's symphonies, from No.1 to No.27 (the latter with Myaskovsky's favourite elevato marking). 10 and 13 are his other major attempts at the Scriabinesque style and probably his most individual works.

I will admit to also really enjoying the symphony for wind band (No. 19) and probably a few of the other later ones that aren't coming to mind right away, but they are certainly much more "neoclassical".

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Re: Nikolay Miaskovsky (1881-1950)
« Reply #383 on: August 13, 2019, 02:59:06 AM »
No. 3 is a symphony in the mold of Scriabin's Poem of Ecstasy, although in my view Myaskovsky's craftsmanship exceeds Scriabin's even if his ideas may be less brilliant. The final funeral march is my favourite passage among his symphonies I think.

Nos. 5 and 11 are very "Russian school" a la the Mighty Kuchka, in an updated, more modern style, and both have beautiful slow movements. To be honest the slow movements are pretty consistently the best parts of Myaskovsky's symphonies, from No.1 to No.27 (the latter with Myaskovsky's favourite elevato marking). 10 and 13 are his other major attempts at the Scriabinesque style and probably his most individual works.

I will admit to also really enjoying the symphony for wind band (No. 19) and probably a few of the other later ones that aren't coming to mind right away, but they are certainly much more "neoclassical".

Yes, that last movement of Symphony No.3 is quite something, ending in the deepest gloom, something which always appeals to me. It's sometimes compared to the symphony by Cesar Frank.  I really like the version for string orchestra ('Two Pieces for Strings' I think) of the middle movements of Symphony 19. Do you know that version? I'm really getting to appreciate Symphony 13 at the moment although I haven't (yet) bought the new Naxos CD.

Here's the Two Pieces for Strings. I wish I'd bought that fine old EMI/Melodiya LP when it first came out:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E68o0xf0evA
I find the opening piece very moving and entirely characteristic of the composer.
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Re: Nikolay Miaskovsky (1881-1950)
« Reply #384 on: August 15, 2019, 01:31:56 AM »
I was very pleased to find this online: 'Kremlin by Night' (1947). Much as I love the music of this composer, apart from the choral end of Symphony No.6, I don't think that I have heard any of his choral music, which seems largely unknown. I can't find any CD or LP featuring it. It's quite a concise work (20 mins) but I found it enchanting, sections of it reminded me of Vaughan Williams and Rachmaninov's 'The Bells' as well as Boris Godonov:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U5MMQpLaKJs
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« Reply #385 on: August 15, 2019, 03:40:10 PM »
I was very pleased to find this online: 'Kremlin by Night' (1947). Much as I love the music of this composer, apart from the choral end of Symphony No.6, I don't think that I have heard any of his choral music, which seems largely unknown. I can't find any CD or LP featuring it. It's quite a concise work (20 mins) but I found it enchanting, sections of it reminded me of Vaughan Williams and Rachmaninov's 'The Bells' as well as Boris Godonov:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U5MMQpLaKJs

This rarity has drawn my attention. I'm gonna check it later. Thanks for sharing it, Jeffrey! The sound quality is decent, fortunately! Checking the comments on the video, there is another rare piece by him: Kirov is with us.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cQSyQgvgYfM" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/cQSyQgvgYfM</a>

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Re: Nikolay Miaskovsky (1881-1950)
« Reply #386 on: August 31, 2019, 10:40:07 AM »
New release of Complete Symphonies:
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Re: Nikolay Miaskovsky (1881-1950)
« Reply #387 on: September 01, 2019, 11:14:10 AM »
IMHO Symphony n 27 is a masterwork .Its triumphal ending isn't forced as DSCH but is the answer of composer towards illness and
death .I love Fifth of Shebalin for the same reason.
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Re: Nikolay Miaskovsky (1881-1950)
« Reply #388 on: September 03, 2019, 01:33:23 AM »
IMHO Symphony n 27 is a masterwork .Its triumphal ending isn't forced as DSCH but is the answer of composer towards illness and
death .I love Fifth of Shebalin for the same reason.
I'm totally with you on both counts here. The slow movement of Symphony 27th is one of the most moving I know and I see the finale as a joyous celebration of life; as if Miaskovsky, after the winter, is welcoming the return of spring in full knowledge that he would not be there to see it. Shebalin's 5th Symphony has a sad eloquence which I also find very moving.
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