Ravel vs. Sibelius

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Sibelius fans just like to bluster more than us Ravel fans.

That they do. In fact, I knew one die-hard Sibelius fan on another forum that just would ramble on and on about how great he was. After awhile, I really thought I was going to vomit. This member also had a fascination with another composer that was quite unhealthy.

[Sid]

Actually, speaking of Tapkaara (if that's who you mean?), I wonder what happened to him? He's not appeared over the other side either recently...

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Actually, speaking of Tapkaara (if that's who you mean?), I wonder what happened to him? He's not appeared over the other side either recently...

Yes, that's who I'm talking about. I haven't talked or seen him in quite some time. I know he ripped me new one behind my back after my unfortunate demise on the other forum. I never liked the guy since that day. I could care less where he's at, he's no friend of mine.

[Sid]

Well, I give credit for him for knowing a number of composers in-depth (Sibelius, Khatchaturian and the Japanese repertoire). He had listened to, probably owned & saw live, many of their works in all genres. The last I heard from him, he was going to see some of his favourite music live in Japan. It would've been interesting to get his impressions on how that went.

I think we were all pretty affected by what went on before you left the other forum, Tapkaara was not the only one. It wasn't an easy time for any of us, to tell you the truth...

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Well, I give credit for him for knowing a number of composers in-depth (Sibelius, Khatchaturian and the Japanese repertoire). He had listened to, probably owned & saw live, many of their works in all genres. The last I heard from him, he was going to see some of his favourite music live in Japan. It would've been interesting to get his impressions on how that went.

I think we were all pretty affected by what went on before you left the other forum, Tapkaara was not the only one. It wasn't an easy time for any of us, to tell you the truth...

And yet we continue to still talk. I guess I got one friend out of that forum even though you and I have both had our differences.

[Sid]

Yeah, well it's sometimes good to have someone on the forum who has a "focus" on a particular repertoire or composer, because they know their stuff in-depth. Even after listening to classical for more than 20 years, I've only begun to scratch the surface. Like a year ago, I probably would have chosen Sibelius (on the strength of Lemminkainen, which I really like), but this year having re-visited or gotten to know for the first time quite a number of Ravel's piano & chamber works - & also seeing some of this stuff in concert - I can happily choose Ravel. I saw the piano trio, Pavane for a Dead Princess (this seems to be quite often played around here, it's a good concert opener as any) and Valses Nobles et Sentimentales live recently, and I can tell you that his harmonies are so rich, it's a completely different experience to hear them live. But by the same token, if some group around here plays Lemminkainen, you know who'll be the first one to buy tickets!!! It's just that they always choose to play the symphonies, which I don't like that much, and especially the 2nd, which is probably my least favourite of the lot!

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Yeah, well it's sometimes good to have someone on the forum who has a "focus" on a particular repertoire or composer, because they know their stuff in-depth. Even after listening to classical for more than 20 years, I've only begun to scratch the surface. Like a year ago, I probably would have chosen Sibelius (on the strength of Lemminkainen, which I really like), but this year having re-visited or gotten to know for the first time quite a number of Ravel's piano & chamber works - & also seeing some of this stuff in concert - I can happily choose Ravel. I saw the piano trio, Pavane for a Dead Princess (this seems to be quite often played around here, it's a good concert opener as any) and Valses Nobles et Sentimentales live recently, and I can tell you that his harmonies are so rich, it's a completely different experience to hear them live. But by the same token, if some group around here plays Lemminkainen, you know who'll be the first one to buy tickets!!! It's just that they always choose to play the symphonies, which I don't like that much, and especially the 2nd, which is probably my least favourite of the lot!

I guess in some instances it pays to know somebody who knows a lot about one or two composers. Unfortunately, for me, nobody cares much about Delius' music, and I know a lot about him and his music, so I'm pretty useless around here.

[DavidW]

Tapkaara is a poster here... just wait he'll be back.  I remember him for slamming Mozart, I kind of went way over the top reacting to that.

[Brahmsian]

Tapkaara is a poster here... just wait he'll be back.  I remember him for slamming Mozart, I kind of went way over the top reacting to that.

  I remember that thread!

[greg]

This member also had a fascination with another composer that was quite unhealthy.

Yeah, I remember... Ifukube. His avatar was actually both Sibelius and Ifukube. Very interesting combination.

[karlhenning]

Spice girls vs spice guys (somewhat obscure, I admit)

Oh! were they in that Dune movie? It's an age since I saw it.

[Brian]

I just got back from seeing the Pavel Haas Quartet play Ravel's quartet at St Luke's Church, Old Street. If you'd asked me to vote in this poll right after walking out of the concert hall, I would have confidently voted for Ravel!

For Sarge's benefit:

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For Sarge's benefit:

Thank you, Brian but that pic needs a good cropping 




Sarge

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Tapkaara is a poster here... just wait he'll be back.  I remember him for slamming Mozart, I kind of went way over the top reacting to that.

As long as I'm on this forum he won't be back, trust me.

[greg]

As long as I'm on this forum he won't be back, trust me.

Draaaaaaaaaammmmmaaaaaaaaaaa

[DavidRoss]

Shocking results. I thought Sibelius would blow Ravel out of the water (around these parts).

Apparently more fans of chamber music than of orchestral music.  And, of course, Sibelius is still ahead of the times.

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Draaaaaaaaaammmmmaaaaaaaaaaa

No, not drama. This member has told other members that as long as I'm posting on the forum he's a member of, he will not be posting.

His loss, not mine.

[Scarpia]

Apparently more fans of chamber music than of orchestral music.  And, of course, Sibelius is still ahead of the times.

Sibelius pulls ahead!  Apparently Sibelius aficionados were too busy listening to Sibelius to realize there was a poll going on.   

[Philoctetes]

Sibelius pulls ahead!  Apparently Sibelius aficionados were too busy listening to Sibelius to realize there was a poll going on.   

Or sufficient time has passed so they can vote with their other accounts.

[karlhenning]

Nay, I still canna vote.