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Brian

#780
June 17, 2011, 07:47:22 AM
Methinks we are too quick to rule out the possibility that a tarantella would be written by an Italian!

Amfortas

#781
June 17, 2011, 07:51:11 AM
Quote from: Brian on June 17, 2011, 07:23:58 AM
Oooh, if that's what Rawsthorne sounds like, I need to be listening to more Rawsthorne.

No, this work technically is a 20th century piece, but only barely, and indeed only on a technicality! It was orchestrated in the 20th century...

Yes you'd probably like Rawsthorne....

''Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.'' - James Joyce (The Dead)

Amfortas

#782
June 17, 2011, 07:52:40 AM
One of the "M" Italian guys....

Martucci?
''Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.'' - James Joyce (The Dead)

karlhenning

#783
June 17, 2011, 07:53:20 AM
Quote from: Brian on June 17, 2011, 07:47:22 AM
Methinks we are too quick to rule out the possibility that a tarantella would be written by an Italian!

'Twas but my sole attempt to guess . . . .

Brian

#784
June 17, 2011, 07:58:19 AM
Quote from: Amfortas on June 17, 2011, 07:52:40 AM
One of the "M" Italian guys....

Martucci?



It is indeed the Tarantella by Giuseppe Martucci, written for piano in 1880 and arranged for orchestra by the composer in 1908, a year before the composer's death. The players are the Rome Symphony Orchestra and Francesco La Vecchia on Naxos' Martucci Vol 2.

karlhenning

#785
June 17, 2011, 08:04:31 AM
Go, Amfortas, go!

Amfortas

#786
June 17, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 17, 2011, 08:04:31 AM
Go, Amfortas, go!

;D I'd love to, if you guys don't mind waiting a bit

If one of you has one to go now, have at it!!!  :-*
''Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.'' - James Joyce (The Dead)

Lethevich

#787
June 17, 2011, 09:37:24 AM
Quote from: Amfortas on June 17, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
;D I'd love to, if you guys don't mind waiting a bit

If one of you has one to go now, have at it!!!  :-*

While we wait - something of a change - a major composer, but I'd like this great but lesser-known piece identifying as near as possible:

LINK
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Amfortas

#788
June 17, 2011, 10:26:47 AM
Sounds like a Schumann piano trio to me...?
''Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.'' - James Joyce (The Dead)

Lethevich

#789
June 17, 2011, 10:32:07 AM
Quote from: Amfortas on June 17, 2011, 10:26:47 AM
Sounds like a Schumann piano trio to me...?

You got the instrumental combination, although the composer is earlier. I love your choice of Schumann, as that bouncy, nodding tune does sound so much like him, doesn't it? :)
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Amfortas

#790
June 17, 2011, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on June 17, 2011, 10:32:07 AM
You got the instrumental combination, although the composer is earlier. I love your choice of Schumann, as that bouncy, nodding tune does sound so much like him, doesn't it? :)

What also sold me (wrongly) on Schumann is the fugal treatment of the theme toward the end. He's a favorite of mine, but I don't know the chamber music as well as I could...

''Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.'' - James Joyce (The Dead)

Brian

#791
June 17, 2011, 04:57:30 PM Last Edit: June 17, 2011, 05:00:52 PM by Brian
Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on June 17, 2011, 10:32:07 AM
You got the instrumental combination, although the composer is earlier. I love your choice of Schumann, as that bouncy, nodding tune does sound so much like him, doesn't it? :)

The composer is earlier? Is it one of the "other" (arranged) trios by Beethoven? But that opening sounds like something from much later... and then the main tune is classical... the piano writing oh it's Schubert. Unnumbered early trio?
EDIT: No it's not

Lethevich

#792
June 17, 2011, 05:10:10 PM Last Edit: June 17, 2011, 05:33:35 PM by Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich
You are right to consider it as not being your typical "let's write a sonata" piece of music - the material's basis is derived from another source, but beyond that it's an original composition. One of Amfortas' ideas hints towards its form.

(Also, sorry for being obtuse - but I am experimenting with the radical practice of not immediately blurting out the answer as I have been wont to do before ;D)
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Amfortas

#793
June 18, 2011, 02:33:19 AM
I was surprised to hear it's earlier too....it can't be Schubert, I recognize his trios (I think)

"Derived from another source" could mean it uses themes from another work, or by a different composer?

I have to travel today, so I won't be back for a while....can't wait to find out what this one is

I must say, you guys consistently come up with good material for this game  :)
''Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.'' - James Joyce (The Dead)

Lethevich

#794
June 18, 2011, 04:38:29 AM
Yep, it's a set of variations. As is so common for this type of work, the original theme is by some nobody and its interest is painfully lacking compared to the wonderful variations written by the more inspired composer. The mystery work is difficult to pin down because it's chronologically ambiguous: it is supposed to be a mixture of early and late material from the composer in question. The quiet opening section I linked is one of the most visionary and advanced additions to the piece, transitioning into the next variation set for the faster section.

I can safely rule out Schubert as an option.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Brian

#795
June 18, 2011, 04:54:37 AM
Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on June 18, 2011, 04:38:29 AM
Yep, it's a set of variations. As is so common for this type of work, the original theme is by some nobody and its interest is painfully lacking compared to the wonderful variations written by the more inspired composer. The mystery work is difficult to pin down because it's chronologically ambiguous: it is supposed to be a mixture of early and late material from the composer in question. The quiet opening section I linked is one of the most visionary and advanced additions to the piece, transitioning into the next variation set for the faster section.

I can safely rule out Schubert as an option.

That smells like a whole lotta Kakadu.

Lethevich

#796
June 18, 2011, 05:26:50 AM Last Edit: June 18, 2011, 09:45:38 AM by Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich
Quote from: Brian on June 18, 2011, 04:54:37 AM
That smells like a whole lotta Kakadu.

BEAST! :D It was indeed Beethoven's Variations on 'Ich bin der Schneider Kakadu', Op.121a. The recording was by the brilliant Abegg Trio - another curious Schumann parallel.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Amfortas

#797
June 19, 2011, 07:52:26 AM
Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on June 18, 2011, 05:26:50 AM
BEAST! :D It was indeed Beethoven's Variations on 'Ich bin der Schneider Kakadu', Op.121a. The recording was by the brilliant Abegg Trio - another curious Schumann parallel.

LOL congrats Brian  :D
''Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.'' - James Joyce (The Dead)

Brian

#798
June 20, 2011, 04:41:29 AM
[feels heat of spotlight] Erm, Amfortas, wasn't it your turn? I thought Lethe was biding time until you could post a clip...

Amfortas

#799
June 20, 2011, 05:08:34 AM
Ok here is something from a famous composer.....

http://www.4shared.com/audio/eA0XF0j-/Mystery_of_20_June_2011.html
''Better pass boldly into that other world, in the full glory of some passion, than fade and wither dismally with age.'' - James Joyce (The Dead)
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