Name that piece! The game

[Amfortas]

He meant the orchestral clip. Hattoff is in fact right: it was Stravinsky doing the stealing, in The Firebird! My line about "which composer is guilty of a bit of imitation of a master" was a deceit - Stravinsky is guilty and the master is what we're looking for, not vice versa!

It's not Tchaikovsky or Rachmaninov, though. This is the last call: when it's time for me to have dinner I'll post the answer.

Gurn, I have no clue at all what your clip is!

Brian: is it from Stravinsky's arrangement of Star Spangled Banner?? 

[karlhenning]

When Gurn posts a forward-looking clip, the auditors' nostrils start flaring, je-je-je!

[Amfortas]

  Not to sound impatient,  but WHAT ARE THE FREAKIN' ANSWERS?? 

[Gurn Blanston]

Not to sound impatient,  but WHAT ARE THE FREAKIN' ANSWERS?? 

Gosh, I was hoping that there would be some others taking a shot at it. OK, maybe a hint or two;

Composer is only obscure if you are alive today (and don't know your history). Famous in his own time.

Considered the greatest composer of chamber music ever produced in his adopted country.

Influential on most of his contemporaries, including Schubert.

Does that help?

[listener]

maybe from one of the Symphonies by CZERNY?

[Lethevich]

Perhaps Onslow? I recall his quartets being surprisingly inventive. Only a guess based on your "adopted country" line, though.

Edit: actually, how did I miss the first part of "Considered the greatest composer of chamber music ever produced in his adopted country."

SEE YOU LATER FAURE AND DEBUSSY, ONSLOW IS IN TOWN.

[Gurn Blanston]

Perhaps Onslow? I recall his quartets being surprisingly inventive. Only a guess based on your "adopted country" line, though.

Edit: actually, how did I miss the first part of "Considered the greatest composer of chamber music ever produced in his adopted country."

SEE YOU LATER FAURE AND DEBUSSY, ONSLOW IS IN TOWN.

Congratulations, Sara. With all the talk of Onslow in that Schubert thread, I thought I might give some to listen to. Yes, his quartets are amazingly inventive. Witness that it was hard to pin down his time frame.

That was Quartet in d minor, Op 55. First movement. Diotima Quartet on Naive.

Take it away, Lethe!

[Brian]

Not to sound impatient,  but WHAT ARE THE FREAKIN' ANSWERS?? 

Well my piece was...

The "Ronde infernale" from Night on Mount Triglav, by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov

Later borrowed by Rimsky-Korsakov's star student, Stravinsky, for another "Danse infernale"! Night on Mount Triglav is a half-hour-long orchestral highlight reel from the opera Mlada, and a veritable textbook of orchestration on its own. Rimsky's prize orchestration student sure learned well!

P.S. Wow, that Onslow clip was really, really, really good!

[DavidW]

P.S. Wow, that Onslow clip was really, really, really good!

Yeah Onslow and Hummel were the two composers that convinced me to sometimes listen to not so famous composers.  Their music is exceptional!  And in fact my concept of tiers must be superficial look at him standing with giants as an equal as a member of the Académie des Beaux-Arts.

[Lethevich]

I wish I had read the Schubert thread, it may have made that guess less random

From Onslow to....? LINK!

[DavidW]

I wish I had read the Schubert thread, it may have made that guess less random

That's why I didn't play!  I PM'd Gurn he gave that hint and bingo! I got it.  Else I would have had no idea.  I was going to guess Mendelssohn!

[karlhenning]

So which modern English composer "completed" that Onslow piece? ; )

[Amfortas]

Guessing the new piece: sounds like.....Rautavaara?

[Brian]

Guessing the new piece: sounds like.....Rautavaara?

Does it? I never thought of Rautavaara having such tunes... it sounds fairly romantic, like the 1930s "it's not too late is it?" kind of romantic.

[Lethevich]

Brian is on the right track. I lack the technical grounding to describe it, but I feel that there is a certain non-standard tonality (not merely a dissonance) to moments of the clip which does place it in the 20th century. Although the performance may be playing that up, which it has reason to do

[Gurn Blanston]

P.S. Wow, that Onslow clip was really, really, really good!

Glad you enjoyed it; I was hoping it might kickstart some interest in what I believe is a better than average obscure composer...

[Gurn Blanston]

So which modern English composer "completed" that Onslow piece? ; )

It was Henning, actually...

[Hattoff]

I've ordered Mount Triglav. I have to know what's going on there. I'm going through the Philip's box set of Rimsky's operas right now, wonderful stuff.

What do you recommend as a starter for Onslow?

I don't know Lethe's piece, unless it's Swiss?

There's so much music and so little time.

It's good here.

[Lethevich]

I don't know Lethe's piece, unless it's Swiss?

A larger country than that, though not one of the current economic biggies, and known for producing a couple of very major composers and a few fine also-rans.

[Amfortas]

A larger country than that, though not one of the current economic biggies, and known for producing a couple of very major composers and a few fine also-rans.

Poland?