Favorite Orchestral Writer by Country?

Started by Brahmsian, August 15, 2011, 03:22:38 PM

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Brahmsian

Not sure if there is such a thread, but how about indicating who your favorite orchestral writer by country is?  One per country - but you can cheat if you'd like.  I'm not a stickler for rules like Gurn is.   :P

Alright, here are just a few of mine.

France - Ravel

England - Vaughan Williams

Germany - Wagner/Beethoven/Strauss

Austria - Mahler/Bruckner

Russia - Rimsky-Korsakov

Czech Rep. - Dvorak

Hungary - Bartok

United States - Copland

Italy - Respighi



haziz

#1
Quote from: ChamberNut on August 15, 2011, 03:22:38 PM
Not sure if there is such a thread, but how about indicating who your favorite orchestral writer by country is?  One per country - but you can cheat if you'd like.  I'm not a stickler for rules like Gurn is.   :P

Alright, here are just a few of mine.

France - Ravel

England - Vaughan Williams

Germany - Wagner/Beethoven/Strauss

Austria - Mahler/Bruckner

Russia - Rimsky-Korsakov

Czech Rep. - Dvorak

Hungary - Bartok

United States - Copland

Italy - Respighi

I am not sure I know enough music theory to truly judge, but I agree with you regarding Ravel and Rimsky-Korsakov.

Sincerely,

Hany.

DavidW

France: Berlioz
England: Simpson
Germany: Beethoven
Austria: Mahler
Russia: Shostakovich
Czech: Martinu
Hungary: Bartok
United States: Barber
Italy: Vivaldi
Finland: Sibelius
Denmark: Holmboe
Estonia: Part
Poland: Lutoslawski
Sweden: Pettersson

:)

DavidW

Quote from: haziz on August 15, 2011, 03:28:05 PM
I am not sure I know enough music theory to truly judge, but I agree with you regaring Ravel and Rimsky-Korsakov.

Sincerely,

Hany.

I think Ray needs to change the title because it's about "favorite orchestral writer" not orchestrator, which is just one specific part of composing orchestral music.

Brahmsian

Quote from: DavidW on August 15, 2011, 04:31:59 PM
I think Ray needs to change the title because it's about "favorite orchestral writer" not orchestrator, which is just one specific part of composing orchestral music.

Done!  Although unfortunately the title change doesn't ripple through to the subsequent posts.

haziz

Quote from: DavidW on August 15, 2011, 04:31:59 PM
I think Ray needs to change the title because it's about "favorite orchestral writer" not orchestrator, which is just one specific part of composing orchestral music.

In that case:

Germany: Beethoven

Russia: I will cheat and include both Tchaikovsky and Rimsky Korsakov (mainly for his skill as orchestrator)

France: Ravel and Debussy

England: Elgar

Norway: Grieg

Finland: Sibelius

Czech: Dvorak

Sincerely,

Hany.

eyeresist

#6
France: Ravel

England: Vaughan Williams

Russia: Prokofiev

Austria: Bruckner

USA: Hanson Herrmann Barber

Germany: Hindemith

Italy: Vivaldi


For other countries, I generally can only think of one composer I like, so no point in listing them.

Grazioso

I'm going to play it fast and loose with the whole Holy Roman Empire/Austrian Empire/Austria-Hungary thing since so many great composers were born in their borders.

Armenia: Khatchaturian
Austria: Mozart
Bohemia: Dvorak
Brazil: Villa-Lobos
Denmark: Holmboe
England: Bax
Estonia: Part
Finland: Sibelius
France: Debussy
Germany: Bach
Hungary: Bartok
Ireland: Stanford
Italy: Vivaldi
Japan: Akutagawa
Mexico: Chavez
Moravia: Janacek
New Zealand: Lilburn
Norway: Sinding
Portugal: Braga Santos
Russia: Rimsky-Korsakov
Spain: Rodrigo
Sweden: Atterberg
Switzerland: Honegger (technically Swiss)
USA: Copland
Wales: Mathias



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karlhenning

Quote from: eyeresist on August 15, 2011, 05:34:54 PM
. . . For other countries, I generally can only think of one composer I like, so no point in listing them.

Only one Czech composer you like? Where's the outrage!

springrite

Japan: Takemitsu
Korea: Isang Yun
Estonia: Tubin
Sweden: Pettersson
Cambodia: Ung
USA: Carter
Spain: Halffter
Poland: Lutoslawski
Italia: De Sabata
England: Rubbra
Denmark: Neilsen
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Grazioso

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on August 17, 2011, 05:34:22 AM
Only one Czech composer you like? Where's the outrage!

Small area with a disproportionately large number of enjoyable composers: Mahler, Dvorak, Janacek, Martinu, Suk, Novak, Foerster, Fibich, Kalliwoda, Vanhal, Rosetti, Krommer, Dussek, Zelenka...
There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact. --Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

J.Z. Herrenberg

#11
England: Havergal Brian
Austria: Anton Bruckner
Denmark: Rued Langgaard
Finland: Jean Sibelius
Netherlands: Léon Orthel
France: Hector Berlioz
Poland: Mieczyslaw Karlowicz
Russia/USA: Igor Stravinsky
Italy: Ottorino Respighi
Sweden: Hugo Alfvén
Germany: Ludwig van Beethoven
Czech Republic: Bohuslav Martinu
Estonia: Eduard Tubin
Romania: George Enescu
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

eyeresist

Quote from: gn i n n e h lr a k on August 17, 2011, 05:34:22 AM
Only one Czech composer you like? Where's the outrage!

Below Dvorak, there is a great space, and then a huddle of mediocrity  >:D


Mirror Image

I'm going to redo mine...

England: Vaughan Williams
France: Koechlin (it pained me to exclude Ravel and Debussy)
Germany: R. Strauss
Austria: Bruckner
Italy: Respighi
Hungary: Bartok
Czech Republic: Janacek (Martinu isn't trailing far behind)
Estonia: Tubin
Sweden: Pettersson
Finland: Sibelius
Spain: de Falla
Romania: Enescu
Switzerland: Honegger
Poland: Szymanowski
Russia: Stravinsky
Australia: Vine
Mexico: Revueltas
Argentina: Ginastera
Brazil: Villa-Lobos
United States: Ives

val

German ...   Beethoven

Austrian ...  Bruckner

French ...  Debussy

Britain ...  Vaughan-Williams

Spanish ... Falla

Portuguese ... Luis Freitas Branco

Russian ... Stravinsky

Hungarian ... Bartok

Italian ... Vivaldi

Czech ... Dvorak

Roumanian ... Enescu

Polish ... Lutoslawski

North American ... Charles Ives

madaboutmahler

Germany: R.Strauss
Austria: Mahler
France: Ravel
England: Elgar
United States: Bernstein
Russia: Tchaikovsky/Rimsky Korsakov/Prokofiev, and Shostakovich as well... (so many great orchestral writers from Russia!)
Czech: Martinu
Hungary: Bartok
Italy: Respighi
Finland: Sibelius
Denmark: Nielsen
Norway: Svendsen
Sweden: Yngve Skold
Poland: Karlowicz/Lutoslawski

Daniel
"Music is ... A higher revelation than all Wisdom & Philosophy"
— Ludwig van Beethoven

Lisztianwagner

#16
Germany: Wagner
Austria: Mahler
France: Ravel
England: Elgar/Holst
United Stated: Bernstein
Russia: Cajkovskij/Rachmaninov/Shostakovich
Czech: Dvorak
Hungary: Liszt
Italy: Respighi
Finland: Sibelius
Denmark: Nielsen
Norway: Grieg
Poland: Lutoslawski

But it's very hard to choose just one/two composers for every country, the list could be so long.....
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Christo

#17
A shortlist. There are far too many countries in this world, I must have overlooked quite a few  ;)

Argentina: Ginastera
Armenia: Khatchaturian
Australia: Benjamin
Austria: Mahler
Azerbaijan: Karayev
Belgium: Meulemans
Brazil: Guarnieri
Britain: Vaughan Williams
Canada: McPhee
Croatia: Gotovac
Cuba: Brouwer
Czechia: Janáček
Denmark: Holmboe
Egypt: El-Dabh
Estonia: Tubin
Finland: Englund
France: Pierné
Georgia: Kancheli
Greece: Skalkottas
Guatemala: Castillo
Hungary: Bartók
Ireland: Kinsella
Iceland: Leifs
India: Shankar
Israel: Ben-Haim
Italy: Respighi
Japan: Ifukube
Korea: Yun
Latvia: Vasks
Lithuania: Čiurlionis
Malta: Camilleri
Mexico: Chávez
Netherlands: Orthel
New Zealand: Lilburn
Norway: Irgens-Jensen
Poland: Lutosławski
Portugal: Braga Santos
Romania: Constantinescu
Russia: Stravinsky
Serbia: Hristić
Slovakia: Moyzes
Spain: Falla
Sweden: Nystroem
Switzerland: Martin
Turkey: Saygun
Ukraine: Silvestrov
USA: Barber
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TheGSMoeller

Argentina: Piazzolla
Austria: Haydn
UK: Britten
Czech: Martinu
France: Poulenc
Germany: Bach
Italy: Vivaldi
Poland: Gorecki
Russia: Prokofiev
USA: Ives


I didn't like this, too difficult for some countries, but I played along.  ;D 8)

North Star

Austria: Mozart
Bohemia: Dvorák
Brazil: Villa-Lobos
England: Holst
Finland: Sibelius
France: Debussy
Germany: Beethoven
Hungary: Bartók
Italy: Vivaldi
Japan: Takemitsu
Moravia: Janacek
Norway: Grieg
Russia: Stravinsky
Soviet Union: Prokofiev
Spain: De Falla
Sweden: Atterberg
USA: Copland
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