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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #1960 on: June 10, 2017, 01:22:28 PM »
UO 1: Most comic books and movies based on comic books are infantile, ridiculous and not worth the time.
UO 2: It is surprising that even among cultured adults [i.e. people who can and regularly do read books without pictures] UO 1 really seems to be an UO.

UO1: I Agree. What's the fascination of Batman or Superman? Those characters don't even look interesting. The "superpowers" and weaknesses given to these characters are mostly stupid.

UO2: I don't agree with this. Even the most cultured people may want to spend their time on less cultured things too. At least my mind likes to oscillate between smart and silly things, between Bach and Katy Perry for example. I have been listening to Schiff's Bach (Partitas) and Katy Perry's new album Witness on Spotify lately.  0:) Silly things are ok as long you know they are silly.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #1961 on: June 10, 2017, 01:29:31 PM »
That may need to be moved to the Popular Opinions thread.

I will not contest that decision.
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« Reply #1962 on: June 13, 2017, 07:15:05 PM »
It wouldn't be agreeable or truly interesting to neorologically manipulate many-legged-creatures to produce their/an analog of music (quite close for some spiders) under different stimuli, but fun for a while.

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« Reply #1963 on: June 21, 2017, 04:53:17 AM »
I like the Schalk edition of Bruckner's Fifth.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #1964 on: June 21, 2017, 05:34:36 AM »
I like the Schalk edition of Bruckner's Fifth.

Why?
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« Reply #1965 on: June 21, 2017, 05:35:34 AM »
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« Reply #1966 on: June 21, 2017, 07:54:31 AM »
Adam West was the best Batman of the lot.


I soooo agree! ;D

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« Reply #1967 on: June 21, 2017, 08:04:38 AM »

Covered in The Asian Invasion.
I just sampled several bits of that recording and the only (Schalk-induced, I think) thing I really hated was the lack of/glossed-over contrapuntal trumpets coming in with the first movement theme in the very last bars.

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« Reply #1968 on: June 21, 2017, 08:16:31 AM »
A certain Hans Knappertsbusch conducted that edition and did a fairly good job of it in my view.

My only issue with the Schalk edition is that the last movement kind of stops making sense as a sonata-fugue hybrid if you remove the recapitulation (which Schalk does). However even then, Bruckner authorized Schalk to make the arrangement and was satisfied with the results, or at least so Mr. Knappertsbusch believed, and by leaving the fugue writing uninterrupted we certainly get a more exciting and dramatic flow of music targeting the coda as eventual goal.

I listen to it fairly often although not as often as Dohnányi & Cleveland conducting the original flavour Fifth. And Jochum in Amsterdam but that is more of a special occasions recording.

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« Reply #1969 on: June 21, 2017, 02:02:09 PM »
One from Artur Schnabel:

Mozart is the most inaccessible of the great masters.

And a (maybe equally unpopular) comment by Leon Fleisher:

[Schabel] said [that] because with the fewest number of notes, [Mozart] accesses the deepest levels of human awareness and experience.

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« Reply #1970 on: June 21, 2017, 02:27:02 PM »
We should send all of those big late romantic symphonies to the moon and replace them with contemporary stuff in all the concert programs  ;D

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« Reply #1971 on: June 21, 2017, 02:47:01 PM »
I like the Schalk edition of Bruckner's Fifth.

My first B5 (Knapp) and I still get a kick out of it.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #1972 on: June 21, 2017, 02:48:23 PM »
I listen to it fairly often although not as often as Dohnányi & Cleveland conducting the original flavour Fifth. And Jochum in Amsterdam but that is more of a special occasions recording.

Dohnányi, Jochum (in Amsterdam) and Knapp...a worthy trio of Bruckner Fifths

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #1973 on: June 21, 2017, 04:07:57 PM »
Dohnányi, Jochum (in Amsterdam) and Knapp...a worthy trio of Bruckner Fifths

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« Reply #1974 on: June 21, 2017, 04:11:57 PM »
We should send all of those big late romantic symphonies to the moon and replace them with contemporary stuff in all the concert programs  ;D

That is not popular with me! :P

I would say have both! And I think we should include more chamber, chamber orchestra and electroacoustic works in these orchestral concerts. Orchestras are made up of musicians who can pretty much play anything, so they should be made to play in many different contexts I reckon.

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« Reply #1975 on: June 21, 2017, 09:37:58 PM »
Late Romanticism is as "bad" as Early Romanticism for almost opposite reasons or, in some quarters, the same reason: not being Wagner.

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« Reply #1976 on: June 21, 2017, 10:31:33 PM »
Late Romanticism is as "bad" as Early Romanticism for almost opposite reasons or, in some quarters, the same reason: not being Wagner.

I agree with this completely. Late Romanticism is good though, you got Schreker and R. Strauss and Elgar and Schoenberg and Mahler, all of whose late Romantic works I think are remarkable. Early Romanticism has none of that but there are still some great pieces by Schumann, Mendelssohn, Schubert, Weber etc............everything, I guess, is a product of its time. Wagner being the height of Romanticism, naturally. :D

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« Reply #1977 on: June 22, 2017, 01:01:51 AM »
Late Romanticism is as "bad" as Early Romanticism for almost opposite reasons or, in some quarters, the same reason: not being Wagner.

Is Wagner all Mid Romanticism has to offer?
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #1978 on: June 22, 2017, 01:29:24 AM »
Wagner is overrated.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #1979 on: June 22, 2017, 02:10:46 AM »
Wagner is overrated.

Another opinion which may be more popular than you think  8)

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