Unpopular Opinions

[Gurn Blanston]

There are only a few Deadheads on this forum: HIPster, me...can't think of anyone else. If you didn't experience them live, it's not likely you'll "get on the bus" at this late point.

Sarge

I was never a Deadhead, Sarge, but I liked their music. In 1978-79 I lived in San Francisco (20th St right off Castro) and my lady and I were looking for something to do on New Year's Eve, so we went to this Closing of Winterland, which we really didn't have any expectation of being such a huge event, just a concert, you know? Bill Graham, promoter extraordinaire, rode down from the balcony to the stage inside a huge 'joint' on a wire and threw joints out to the audience the whole way. The music was great, best NYE ever, I must say. I didn't even know it was made into a DVD or even an album until I just now Googled this. I only remember the date, it was the only NYE I was living there, can't mistake it for another. So that was cool....

[Karl Henning]

Dude, you & your lady are legends!

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[Gurn Blanston]

Dude, you & your lady are legends!

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  Who knew? 

[Monsieur Croche]

I was never a Deadhead, Sarge, but I liked their music. In 1978-79 I lived in San Francisco (20th St right off Castro) and my lady and I were looking for something to do on New Year's Eve, so we went to this Closing of Winterland, which we really didn't have any expectation of being such a huge event, just a concert, you know? Bill Graham, promoter extraordinaire, rode down from the balcony to the stage inside a huge 'joint' on a wire and threw joints out to the audience the whole way. The music was great, best NYE ever, I must say. I didn't even know it was made into a DVD or even an album until I just now Googled this. I only remember the date, it was the only NYE I was living there, can't mistake it for another. So that was cool....

Ah-Ha!

A gentleman with a past.

[Gurn Blanston]

Ah-Ha!

A gentleman with a past.

  Yes, but 'pasts' are better when you know about them yourself. I thought it was just a great concert and some free weed... who knew? 

[Madiel]

Would I be wrong if I said that Daphnis et Chloé was the greatest orchestra work ever composed.......before 1910? 

Given when it was composed, yes, you would be wrong. This is the Unpopular Opinions thread. Alternative Facts is down the hall.

[Jaakko Keskinen]

Would I be wrong if I said that Daphnis et Chloé was the greatest orchestra work ever composed.......before 1910? 

After Miroirs, it's probably my favorite from Ravel.

[Madiel]

Fine before 1912, this isn't the first time I've fucked up on single digest

It was completed in 1912. Try "before 1913".

[Ken B]

Would I be wrong if I said that Daphnis et Chloé was the greatest orchestra work ever composed.......before 1910? 

Orfeo has picked on the less wrong half of your statement.

[Madiel]

And performed in 1912!

Yes... I'm sorry, are we having difficulties with the difference between "in" and "before"?

[Ken B]

Ravel wrote music?

Well, there's Bolero 

[Ken B]

To which I am a believer 

It's his best piece but I cannot say so here, since it is a popular opinion.

[Turner]

Bolero is the poor man´s Frontispice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATT-1vmZZAk

Well, maybe.

[North Star]

Bolero is the poor man´s Frontispice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATT-1vmZZAk

Well, maybe.

Frontispice is an extraordinary jewel.

[Mandryka]

Bolero is the poor man´s Frontispice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATT-1vmZZAk

Well, maybe.

Nice one, never heard Frontispice before. I just found a very good performance with Gilbert Kalish and Paul Jacobs. They play some earlier Ravel too on the same thing, they make it sound interesting.

[ritter]

Nice one, never heard Frontispice before. I just found a very good performance with Gilbert Kalish and Paul Jacobs. They play some earlier Ravel too on the same thing, they make it sound interesting.

If any piece of music can be labelled "enigmatic", it's Frontspice IMHO. A real jewel.

That perfomance by Jacobs and Kalish (the fifth hand being Teresa Sterne's) is on this wonderful Nonesuch CD (reissued by rkiv):

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One of my favourite Ravel CDs (Jan DeGaetani is great in the Chansons madécasses, and the Habanera is the most seductive I've ever heard).

By the way, there's an orchestral version of Frontispice arranged by none other than Pierre Boulez (his only published arrangement of music by another composer AFAIK);

https://www.youtube.com/v/dYdOjdP5-oI

One could think at moments that one is listening to an orchestral Notation.

[Mandryka]

If any piece of music can be labelled "enigmatic", it's Frontspice IMHO. A real jewel.

(the fifth hand being Teresa Sterne's)

I thought it was a typo when I read fifth hand! So this is for two pianos and five hands is it? How mad!

One piano

https://www.youtube.com/v/Zw1RHoQtsyE

[Brian]

Is Josef the best Strauss?

[Jo498]

Is Josef the best Strauss?

In waltzes and stuff he is as good or better as Johann jun. but as he was a part-time composer most of his (rather short) life (he was trained as an engineer and actually invented some kind of street cleaning machine) I don't know if he wrote any full scale operetta (and if so, they seem forgotten), so if one considers the "Fledermaus" and the "Gypsy Baron" pretty good pieces of light musical theater, I think one has to give Johann jun. the edge.

[Florestan]

Is Josef the best Strauss?

You mean Joseph Lanner, right?