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« Reply #16040 on: January 19, 2021, 02:39:21 PM »
It would be my third complete cycle. Incidentally, another one I'm looking at that I didn't picture is the Karajan/Berlin '63 cycle, which is cheapest of them all, on the used market, and can be had for about 10 bucks. However I already have Karajan/Berlin '77 and not sure whether I need the earlier one too.

Argh, there's too many Beethoven cycles out there. Might be wisest to just stick to the two I have, Bernstein/New York/Sony and Karajan/Berlin/DG '77, and be done with it, otherwise there is dangerous potential to really go down a rabbit hole with all these cycles. Last thing I want is to become one of those guys with 50 Beethoven cycles on the shelves (really no offense intended to those guys among us! ;D)

If you can find it I think that Wand's set is the gold standard.

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« Reply #16041 on: January 19, 2021, 02:56:36 PM »
However I already have Karajan/Berlin '77 and not sure whether I need the earlier one too.


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« Reply #16042 on: January 19, 2021, 03:03:33 PM »
[...] I'd suggest that if you acquire a new cycle it should be significantly different - by, say, reflecting modern scholarship & style (Chailly or Mackerras), being outright HIP (Immerseel or Gardiner), or reflecting a conductor's very individual/unusual vision (Barenboim).

[...] you might think hard about what kind of thing you would like to be different from Lenny or Herby - if you want to hear a smaller orchestra, or louder brass, or premium sound quality, or slower or faster or bigger/smaller dynamic contrasts etc.

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« Reply #16043 on: January 20, 2021, 12:06:30 AM »
I don't know anything about the Beethovenhalle cycle but do not expect it to be up with the best. While I have heard neither Szell nor Barenboim complete, I'd say that the latter is recommendable, especially at a low price. It has great sound and a rather different approach compared to the tradition from Toscanini (of which Szell and Karajan are a part, only a bit smoother) to HIP influence (that is present in most recordings of the last 20 years) superbly done. It might seem too romantic in parts, but it will give you something really different and done very well.
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« Reply #16044 on: January 26, 2021, 08:44:18 PM »
Worth purchasing them?  ::)

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« Reply #16045 on: January 27, 2021, 08:44:41 PM »
Worth purchasing them?  ::)

If the Svetlanov box is like the Rozhdostvensky box in that series, the music will be of interest, possibly some works out of the mainstream,  and the sound quality will vary from bad to fairly decent.

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« Reply #16046 on: January 28, 2021, 06:38:39 PM »
Worth purchasing them?  ::)
Frankly speaking Brilliant classics sound quality is scarce.Anthology of Melodiya is far superior and complete and searching in Russia ,you could pay it a lower price than Amazon & co.

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« Reply #16047 on: January 29, 2021, 08:18:17 AM »
Frankly speaking Brilliant classics sound quality is scarce.Anthology of Melodiya is far superior and complete and searching in Russia ,you could pay it a lower price than Amazon & co.

Roy, good idea, I will look for the Melodiya anthology. Still I may buy these boxes too  ;D :D.

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« Reply #16048 on: January 30, 2021, 05:13:20 AM »


(Not for the Strauss, I hasten to add.)  I have to say, I think the Lachenmann piano concerto is a fabulous piece of music, so I guess it’s inevitable that I’ll get this!
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« Reply #16049 on: January 30, 2021, 08:00:57 AM »
Frankly speaking Brilliant classics sound quality is scarce.Anthology of Melodiya is far superior and complete and searching in Russia ,you could pay it a lower price than Amazon & co.

Agreed on sound quality. I keep hoping for Melodiya to do a Richter/Gilels style box for Rozhdestvensky.

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« Reply #16050 on: January 30, 2021, 08:28:36 AM »
I would not count on that. Rozhdestvensky does not have the cult status of Mravinsky or Kondrashin. And he (re-)recorded a bunch of music for western labels later on. So overall (of course also including the many older BMG etc. issues of his recordings) there might be too much available in some way so that a big box would not sell well.
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« Reply #16051 on: January 31, 2021, 04:45:31 AM »
Considering:



Would this be a valueable addition to my Telemann collection?
Does it come with texts of the vocal works?

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« Reply #16052 on: February 16, 2021, 05:05:59 PM »


Thinking about it...

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« Reply #16054 on: February 18, 2021, 09:01:26 PM »
   

The Obrecht has a lot of instrumental music, but it’s quite varied and agreeable. The thing that makes it valuable for me are the songs in Dutch. Countertenor. I’m glad to have this one.

The Scattered Ashes is a cd of late Renaissance bonbons. Dim the lights, pour yourself a cognac, smoke a cigar, listen to the music, chill. Singing is sweet, consonant, coherent - it would be misleading to call it blended I think. It is pretty expressive. I remember that once I explored recordings of the Josquin miserere  and I really enjoyed the one here.
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« Reply #16055 on: February 18, 2021, 09:10:25 PM »


Thinking about it...

I think it’s really very good indeed, plenty of subtle new ideas but they appear so natural that you don’t feel challenged. Wonderful harpsichord, well recorded. All the repeats. I haven’t read it but normally the booklet has a fine research essay by Suzuki’s tame musicologist, Yo Tomita.
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« Reply #16056 on: February 18, 2021, 10:02:27 PM »
The Obrecht has a lot of instrumental music, but it’s quite varied and agreeable. The thing that makes it valuable for me are the songs in Dutch. Countertenor. I’m glad to have this one.

The Scattered Ashes is a cd of late Renaissance bonbons. Dim the lights, pour yourself a cognac, smoke a cigar, listen to the music, chill. Singing is sweet, consonant, coherent - it would be misleading to call it blended I think. It is pretty expressive. I remember that once I explored recordings of the Josquin miserere  and I really enjoyed the one here.

Thanks.
I have the Camerata Trajectina (Globe) CD of Obrecht secular works (below), which has instrumentals and is quite good (funny too, some bawdy material). So I thought this one might work despite the instruments...

ISTR seeing Scattered Ashes several times on the Listening thread with positive comments.
I've saved these to a cart for my next (Berkshire Record Outlet) order.
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« Reply #16057 on: February 19, 2021, 04:56:53 AM »
   
I sampled the music of Scattered Ashes one--beautiful!

The title reminded of a book (fiction) that I read years ago and greatly enjoyed by Sarah Dunant called The Birth of Venus.  Tempted to read some more of her books as I see that she's become somewhat of a specialist in this time period.  :)

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« Reply #16058 on: February 19, 2021, 08:07:34 AM »
I sampled the music of Scattered Ashes one--beautiful!

The title reminded of a book (fiction) that I read years ago and greatly enjoyed by Sarah Dunant called The Birth of Venus.  Tempted to read some more of her books as I see that she's become somewhat of a specialist in this time period.  :)

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I've posted this before, but if I could read Dutch (orig.) or German (trans.) I'd go for Theun de Vries's novel about Josquin, Het motet voor de kardinaal.
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« Reply #16059 on: February 19, 2021, 11:04:24 AM »
I think it’s really very good indeed, plenty of subtle new ideas but they appear so natural that you don’t feel challenged. Wonderful harpsichord, well recorded. All the repeats. I haven’t read it but normally the booklet has a fine research essay by Suzuki’s tame musicologist, Yo Tomita.

I'm interested. By the way, who is an untamed musicologist in your book?