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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14480 on: January 19, 2018, 09:51:03 AM »
Thanks, though I think I'm more interested in the piano & cello concertos (I've got the violin concertante works in the set already).

I have the Piano Concerti in that set, which I like, although the sound sometimes seems artificial (although satisfying). Another set I like a lot is Ciccolini on EMI France (if you can tolerate sound which is honest but dated). I have it in the giant Ciccolini box, I think it is not hard to find in a smaller set.

The Cello concerti I have in a hodgepodge of recordings.
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« Reply #14481 on: January 19, 2018, 09:55:45 AM »
For the violin concerti (+ other works) I have Hoelscher. It seems mostly justified that the 3rd concerto is by far the best known... And a single disc with symphonies 1+2 with Pretre. It seems mostly justified that the 3rd symphony is by far the best known... I don't have a recording of the uncounted A major and Urbs Roma.

For the piano concerti there are many options, the one below also has two short works not included in the 5-disc-box, I think. Not sure of any budget cello concerti (there must be Kliegel on Naxos, I guess) - this is a case where the dominance of the first concerto is not quite justified. The disc with tone poems included in the five disc set is very good, probably the best collection of these pieces (usually one has only one or two as fillers) and might be findable in an earlier incarnation as a single. If you find the 5-disc-set cheaply it will be worth it for two discs and some nice alternatives to what you already have.

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« Reply #14482 on: January 19, 2018, 10:05:56 AM »



I wish you hadn't mentioned that. Now I'm curious, and I don't need any more Saint-Saens. :)

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« Reply #14483 on: January 19, 2018, 10:13:33 AM »
I think the piano concerti (certainly 2 and 4) are among the works that can merit another recording (or two) in one's collection although I am not a huge fan of the composer either (his chamber music is underrated, though).
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« Reply #14484 on: January 19, 2018, 10:18:56 AM »
I think it's very good the latest one by Stradivarius:




The samples sound good. I'll listen to it, thanks. Have you heard the recent recording by Kairos? Here's a link to the release: https://www.kairos-music.com/cds/0015021kai

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« Reply #14485 on: January 19, 2018, 10:26:54 AM »
For the violin concerti (+ other works) I have Hoelscher. It seems mostly justified that the 3rd concerto is by far the best known... And a single disc with symphonies 1+2 with Pretre. It seems mostly justified that the 3rd symphony is by far the best known... I don't have a recording of the uncounted A major and Urbs Roma.

For the piano concerti there are many options, the one below also has two short works not included in the 5-disc-box, I think. Not sure of any budget cello concerti (there must be Kliegel on Naxos, I guess) - this is a case where the dominance of the first concerto is not quite justified. The disc with tone poems included in the five disc set is very good, probably the best collection of these pieces (usually one has only one or two as fillers) and might be findable in an earlier incarnation as a single. If you find the 5-disc-set cheaply it will be worth it for two discs and some nice alternatives to what you already have.
Thanks, looks like I'll keep an eye for the prices of the 5 disc set, then. (and yeah I don't recall being very impressed with VC's 1 & 2)
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« Reply #14486 on: January 19, 2018, 10:32:08 AM »
I wish you hadn't mentioned that. Now I'm curious, and I don't need any more Saint-Saens. :)

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« Reply #14487 on: January 19, 2018, 10:41:54 AM »
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I've suppressed the urge by reminding myself that Collard is a "Faure Pianists." (No contradictions please.)

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« Reply #14488 on: January 19, 2018, 10:43:55 AM »
I've suppressed the urge by reminding myself that Collard is a "Faure Pianists." (No contradictions please.)
If it's any help, Sarge and MI think it's their least favourite set of the SS concertos..
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« Reply #14489 on: January 19, 2018, 10:46:51 AM »
If it's any help, Sarge and MI think it's their least favourite set of the SS concertos..

Oh dear, that's riling up the contrarian side of my character. :)  (Faure, Faure, Faure, Faure...)

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« Reply #14490 on: January 19, 2018, 10:59:06 AM »
Oh dear, that's riling up the contrarian side of my character. :)  (Faure, Faure, Faure, Faure...)

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« Reply #14491 on: January 19, 2018, 11:09:49 AM »
If it's any help, Sarge and MI think it's their least favourite set of the SS concertos..
To be unhelpful: The Collard is generally highly regarded (and I think I prefer it to Rogé's but I am very far from an expert in this music). It is also a cheapo twofer so no big deal to find out what one thinks about it.
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Baron Scarpia

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« Reply #14492 on: January 19, 2018, 11:12:56 AM »
Time is the issue, more than money.

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« Reply #14493 on: January 19, 2018, 12:12:39 PM »
I have this

which you can get as part of an OOP Brilliant set that includes the Martinon symphonies and Hoelscher's works for violin and orchestra.



Personally, I found the first two symphonies forgettable, and that for the concertante works and the  Third Symphony,  there is no need to collect alternative recordings.

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« Reply #14494 on: January 19, 2018, 09:46:16 PM »
The samples sound good. I'll listen to it, thanks. Have you heard the recent recording by Kairos? Here's a link to the release: https://www.kairos-music.com/cds/0015021kai

No I haven't, I wasn't aware of it but right now I'm enjoying Nidi (i.e. Bird's Nests) for piccolo solo. What a charming piece! Thanks for pointing that album out.

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« Reply #14495 on: January 21, 2018, 10:27:14 PM »
This Pärt organ music

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Re: Recordings That You Are Considering
« Reply #14496 on: January 22, 2018, 07:37:04 AM »
After recently seeing an exhibition works by Giorgio de Chirico (an artist I'm ambivalent about, to be honest) here in Madrid, I'm considering the purchase of this CD:



Alberto Savinio, whose real name was Andrea Francesco Alberto de Chirico, was Giorgio's younger brother, and was active as a painter, writer and composer, Apparently, he studied under Reger and composed only sporadically, the works contained in this CD dating from around the outbreak of WWI. Some chunks are available on YouTube.

Incidentally, Savinio directed and designed the sets for the performances of Rossini's Armida in Florence in 1952  (starring Maria Callas). If I understand correctly, Savinio died just days before after the premiere at the Maggio Musicale.

This is a (clearly "de Chirican") set design for the second act:


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« Reply #14497 on: January 22, 2018, 07:51:44 AM »
After recently seeing an exhibition works by Giorgio de Chirico (an artist I'm ambivalent about, to be honest) here in Madrid, I'm considering the purchase of this CD:



Alberto Savinio, whose real name was Andrea Francesco Alberto de Chirico, was Giorgio's younger brother, and was active as a painter, writer and composer, Apparently, he studied under Reger and composed only sporadically, the works contained in this CD dating from around the outbreak of WWI. Some chunks are available on YouTube.

Incidentally, Savinio designed the sets for the performances of Rossini's Armida in Florence in 1952  (starring Maria Callas):


Interesting information thanks, and, I´m pretty sure, not known to many people ... I looked up this general wiki entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Savinio
Italian wiki has a list of some of the music https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Savinio
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« Reply #14498 on: January 22, 2018, 08:00:37 AM »
FWIW, I understand the ambivalence towards di Chirico.
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« Reply #14499 on: January 22, 2018, 08:21:00 AM »
FWIW, I understand the ambivalence towards di Chirico.
I was a total nut of di Chirico earlier in my life.  I still like him a lot. If I could buy one of his work at a fair price, I would no hesitate a second.