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MN Dave

#2020
April 17, 2008, 04:45:56 PM
Quote from: George on April 17, 2008, 04:44:22 PM
If I were still in the business of creating signatures, this would be my new one for sure!  :D

:)

Gurn Blanston

#2021
April 17, 2008, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: George on April 17, 2008, 04:43:14 PM
Yeah, I think I bought it on your recommendation. I have it placed in a file with REM's last album "Around the Sun." The file is marked, "Music to revisit when I am over 50."  8)

:P

8)

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George

#2022
April 17, 2008, 04:47:38 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 17, 2008, 04:46:53 PM
:P

8)

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Had you and others not recommended it, it would be in the circular file.  8)

Gurn Blanston

#2023
April 17, 2008, 04:50:16 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2008, 04:45:12 PM
Okay. I'm listening to #11 (because that's the one you listen to, right?) and I am enjoying it very much. So...I have to be in the mood. Or Gurn has to get me in the mood...er...wait...  :-[

Double  :-[    :D

Of course, all anyone talks about is the 3rd mvmt Rondo, but I really like the Theme and Variations in the first mvmt. :)

8)

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MN Dave

#2024
April 17, 2008, 04:51:03 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 17, 2008, 04:50:16 PM
Double  :-[    :D

Of course, all anyone talks about is the 3rd mvmt Rondo, but I really like the Theme and Variations in the first mvmt. :)

Me too.  :D

George

#2025
April 17, 2008, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2008, 04:45:12 PM
Okay. I'm listening to #11 (because that's the one you listen to, right?) and I am enjoying it very much. So...I have to be in the mood. Or Gurn has to get me in the mood...er...wait...  :-[

I have a feeling that Gurn will be more than happy to oblige whenever necessary.  8)

Gurn Blanston

#2026
April 17, 2008, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: George on April 17, 2008, 04:47:38 PM
Had you and others not recommended it, it would be in the circular file.  8)

There is no accounting for taste, amigo. :)  IMO, it far exceeds his 2 later efforts, it is a young man playing a young man's music...

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Gurn Blanston

#2027
April 17, 2008, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: George on April 17, 2008, 04:51:23 PM
I have a feeling that Gurn will be more than happy to oblige whenever necessary.  8)

Don't have me come over there, George... >:(   :D

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MN Dave

#2028
April 17, 2008, 04:54:24 PM
Listening to KV 174 (we've talked about this work before, Gurn). Talk about a first movement.  0:)

George

#2029
April 17, 2008, 04:54:52 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 17, 2008, 04:52:30 PM
IMO, it far exceeds his 2 later efforts, it is a young man playing a young man's music...


On this point you will not get any argument from me, Gurn.  :)

George

#2030
April 17, 2008, 04:55:15 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 17, 2008, 04:53:51 PM
Don't have me come over there, George... >:(   :D

8)

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;D

Gurn Blanston

#2031
April 17, 2008, 04:58:02 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2008, 04:54:24 PM
Listening to KV 174 (we've talked about this work before, Gurn). Talk about a first movement.  0:)

Ah yes, the first viola quintet. At that time, he was going through a phase which (in a perfect world) would have lasted just a bit longer (until Vienna!), where he wrote that, the first d minor quartet, the "Little g minor" symphony and the piano concerto #5, all virtually simultaneously. His first real flashes of greatness, IMO. :)

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MN Dave

#2032
April 17, 2008, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 17, 2008, 04:58:02 PM
Ah yes, the first viola quintet. At that time, he was going through a phase which (in a perfect world) would have lasted just a bit longer (until Vienna!), where he wrote that, the first d minor quartet, the "Little g minor" symphony and the piano concerto #5, all virtually simultaneously. His first real flashes of greatness, IMO. :)

I'll have to check out those other works you mention because I never seem to get over old KV 174.  0:)

Gurn Blanston

#2033
April 17, 2008, 05:09:03 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2008, 05:01:10 PM
I'll have to check out those other works you mention because I never seem to get over old KV 174.  0:)

I think you would like them, the symphony is #25 (makes it easier to find) and the 4tet is #13, IIRC. It seems clear that this was his contribution to Stürm und Drang, which was the style du jour in Vienna in 1772-73 when he visited there. :)

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MN Dave

#2034
April 17, 2008, 05:10:23 PM
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 17, 2008, 05:09:03 PM
I think you would like them, the symphony is #25 (makes it easier to find) and the 4tet is #13, IIRC. It seems clear that this was his contribution to Stürm und Drang, which was the style du jour in Vienna in 1772-73 when he visited there. :)

No wonder I like it! "Stürm und Drang" is my middle name.  0:)

Dancing Divertimentian

#2035
April 17, 2008, 06:26:30 PM
Quote from: Don on April 17, 2008, 01:22:16 PM
My first pick would be Uchida - then Kraus.

Like (the other) Don and Bill, I prefer Uchida.



Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Bogey

#2036
April 17, 2008, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2008, 01:46:10 PM
I've heard Uchida. I own Wurtz. I'm thinking, maybe these sonatas aren't for me.  ;D

:D
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Que

#2037
April 17, 2008, 09:20:03 PM Last Edit: April 17, 2008, 09:25:03 PM by Que
Quote from: MN Dave on April 17, 2008, 01:46:10 PM
I've heard Uchida. I own Wurtz. I'm thinking, maybe these sonatas aren't for me.  ;D

I felt the same for many many years, tried Uchida and Schiff and sampled many others.
Things only clicked when I heard it on a fortepiano in a HIP recording. So, there's hope.  :)
Try some Brautigam on BIS, you'll see.

Quote from: Bogey on April 17, 2008, 01:45:07 PM
I cannot imagine my musical shelf without this set.  What is the cost these days?

Personally I would leave my shelf without Uchida's Mozart sonatas, but I believe I'm in a minority there. :-X

It's not in a appropriate Classical style, nor Romantic, nor late-Romantic, but in a kind of artifically perfect, "objective" post-Romantic style. Mozart in marble. Sorry for the rant, as you've guessed by now - I really don't like it. 8)

Q

Dancing Divertimentian

#2038
April 17, 2008, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: Que on April 17, 2008, 09:20:03 PM
Personally I would leave my shelf without it, but I believe I'm in a minority there. :-X

It's not in a appropriate Classical style, nor Romantic, nor late-Romantic, but in a kind of artifically perfect, "objective" post-Romantic style. Mozart in marble. Sorry for the rant, as you've guessed by now - I really don't like it. 8)

Q

Well, I guess for a rant you're entitled to, err..."subjective prose", Q, but "artificially perfect, 'objective' post-Romantic style" is a mouthful and honestly I can't make heads or tails of it! ;D

Though one thing I DO know...it doesn't jive with the warmth and honesty I myself hear in Uchida's approach...



Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Que

#2039
April 17, 2008, 09:42:37 PM Last Edit: April 17, 2008, 09:50:44 PM by Que
Quote from: donwyn on April 17, 2008, 09:33:34 PM
Well, I guess for a rant you're entitled to, err..."subjective prose", Q, but "artificially perfect, 'objective' post-Romantic style" is a mouthful and honestly I can't make heads or tails of it! ;D

Though one thing I DO know...it doesn't jive with the warmth and honesty I myself hear in Uchida's approach...

LOL ;D

Well, if there are warm emotions in there, I'm sorry to miss them. Basically, I think she's trying to read things into Mozart that aren't there, and missing out of the essence of the music. Musically, her "sculpted" and uniformely "balanced" approach doesn't fit IMO. The pauses, the slow-downs, the accents, it sounds all very much out of place to me. Mind: technically perfect and very considered, but is this Mozart?

In my book Mozart has a kick and forward thrust, balance continiously shifting with unexpected turn and twists, wild accents and above all: terribly witty.
But undoubtedly you hear all that in Uchida, I'm sure. :)

Q
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