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[jlaurson]

I was considering the Rheinberger Sacred Music box on Carus (10 cds). I have one of them and enjoy it, but I wasn't sure the others were as good. Anyone heard these?

I've got most of those, too... and I love them. Well, Rheinberger - and he's well served here. Hands down Lichtenstein's best composer! (I used to sing him as a chorister, which may explain some of that love I have for him, which is above avg. among music listeners.  )

[SonicMan46]

I was considering the Rheinberger Sacred Music box on Carus (10 cds). I have one of them and enjoy it, but I wasn't sure the others were as good. Anyone heard these?

   

Hi Neal - I own about 10 discs of Rheinberger's music but only one of his vocal works (inserted above in the middle) - also have the 6-CD set of his 'Chamber Works' which I enjoy - w/ the posts from two of our other members, maybe I'll have to consider this vocal box?  There is also a box of his piano works which I've not explored (at the moment) -   Dave

[mc ukrneal]

Thanks for the Rheinberger comments. I think I will get it, as it is about $40 with shipping at Amazon MP. I have the Rheinberger piano box incidentally, and really enjoy that, so it wasn't really hard to convince me!

[SonicMan46]

Well, after my previous post concerning Josef Rhienberger's Choral Music, I am now looking at his large piano output, available on a 10-CD box below (MusicWeb review HERE) - anyone know this offering?  I'd be flabbergasted if I purchased both the choral & piano boxes (along w/ my chamber one shown previously) and ended up w/ nearly 30 CDs by this obscure (but excellent) Romantic composer - YIKES!  Dave

[mc ukrneal]

Well, after my previous post concerning Josef Rhienberger's Choral Music, I am now looking at his large piano output, available on a 10-CD box below (MusicWeb review HERE) - anyone know this offering?  I'd be flabbergasted if I purchased both the choral & piano boxes (along w/ my chamber one shown previously) and ended up w/ nearly 30 CDs by this obscure (but excellent) Romantic composer - YIKES!  Dave

As I wrote above, I really like the piano box. It is all well crafted and enjoyable, though some pieces are better than others. Still. the performances are always enthusiastic and I do come back to these. I think the musicweb review captures the essence of them. On the other hand, these were dirt cheap at one point, so that didn't hurt either!

[SonicMan46]

As I wrote above, I really like the piano box. It is all well crafted and enjoyable, though some pieces are better than others. Still. the performances are always enthusiastic and I do come back to these. I think the musicweb review captures the essence of them. On the other hand, these were dirt cheap at one point, so that didn't hurt either!

Thanks Neal for your comments on the 'piano box' - I did not see that post - we must have been typing at about the same moment looking at the timing of our posts - BOY, 20 discs of Rheinberger, if I get both boxes!  Plus, that 'chamber box' is quite good, too.  Dave

[Mandryka]

Les Jeunes Solistes do Dufay's Homme Armé mass.

[Mirror Image]

Currently, looking at recordings of Korngold's Die tote Stadt.

[mc ukrneal]

Currently, looking at recordings of Korngold's Die tote Stadt.

Well there are mostly two - Leinsdorf and Segarstam. The latter is live and mostly well sung. As it is live, there are sometimes noises and the like - doesn't bother me, but it does some people. On Leinsdorf, you have the wonderful Carol Neblett, and she shines here (although no complaints on the Naxos in this role). I wish she were more recorded. Neither male is ideal in my view, but Kollo is probably the stronger. Really, though, both are quite good. However, if memory serves, the Naxos has some cuts - so I think the Leinsdorf wins out.

And if you want more, CPO did a recording of Die Kathrin - well worth a listen. Or perhaps try Violanta - wonderful version under Janowski (with Jerusalem and Martin).

[Mirror Image]

Well there are mostly two - Leinsdorf and Segarstam. The latter is live and mostly well sung. As it is live, there are sometimes noises and the like - doesn't bother me, but it does some people. On Leinsdorf, you have the wonderful Carol Neblett, and she shines here (although no complaints on the Naxos in this role). I wish she were more recorded. Neither male is ideal in my view, but Kollo is probably the stronger. Really, though, both are quite good. However, if memory serves, the Naxos has some cuts - so I think the Leinsdorf wins out.

And if you want more, CPO did a recording of Die Kathrin - well worth a listen. Or perhaps try Violanta - wonderful version under Janowski (with Jerusalem and Martin).

Thanks, Neal. I'm a little late in this reply as I've already bought the Leinsdorf. I'm certainly looking at Korngold's other operas, but haven't really decided to pull the trigger on any of them (yet). I appreciate your feedback.

[Bogey]

Would like to compare this to the Living Stereo one I am rolling out tonight.  This is said to be a great live performance of a piece I would not mind having multiple copies of.

[Mandryka]

Both works are interpreted in such a way as to harmonise with each other

You are right, I think it's a very stimulating recording. Thanks. The whole business of the 1838 edition is interesting- it certainly does not sound the same.

You may enjoy Lonquich's Schubert, which is also really distinctive. I can upload it for you if you want.

Holliger's great! Amazing fugue.

[Pretorious]

I'm looking for a new recording of Haydn's piano trios and am wondering if this one by the Haydn Trio Eisenstadt is a good choice?



I already have the complete set of the trios by the Beaux Arts ensemble, but I'm looking for a modern, digital recording to go along with it. Would love to know what those of you think about this set, both in terms of sound and performance.

[Turner]

Would like to compare this to the Living Stereo one I am rolling out tonight.  This is said to be a great live performance of a piece I would not mind having multiple copies of.

Rubinstein kept a lively approach to the Saint Saens also in his stereo years, but the Mitropoulos/NYPO which I have is pure dynamite. The CD liner note says 1952, but I´m not 100% sure they are correct. It´s a 4 CD set on the ArtOne label, portraying Rubinstein, timings 10:47 - 5:44 - 5:53, as well as a 10 CD  box on the TIM label, portraying Mitropoulos.

[Jo498]

I'm looking for a new recording of Haydn's piano trios and am wondering if this one by the Haydn Trio Eisenstadt is a good choice?



I already have the complete set of the trios by the Beaux Arts ensemble, but I'm looking for a modern, digital recording to go along with it. Would love to know what those of you think about this set, both in terms of sound and performance.

It is the only complete alternative to BeauxArts on modern instruments. I have only one disc of the Eisenstadt set (the complete box is oop and the older single issues even more so) and it is pretty good but I do not know the BeauxArts.

There are two complete recordings on historic instruments that might provide a stronger contrast (unless you cannot stand historic keyboard sound): Trio 1790 on cpo and Van Swieten Trio on Brilliant.

[SonicMan46]

I'm looking for a new recording of Haydn's piano trios and am wondering if this one by the Haydn Trio Eisenstadt is a good choice?

 

I already have the complete set of the trios by the Beaux Arts ensemble, but I'm looking for a modern, digital recording to go along with it. Would love to know what those of you think about this set, both in terms of sound and performance.

Hello, I own two sets of these piano trios - the one you posted and also the one inserted above w/ the PI group, the Van Sweiten Trio - enjoy both tremendously - attached is a review that might be of interest.  Dave

[mc ukrneal]

I'm looking for a new recording of Haydn's piano trios and am wondering if this one by the Haydn Trio Eisenstadt is a good choice?



I already have the complete set of the trios by the Beaux Arts ensemble, but I'm looking for a modern, digital recording to go along with it. Would love to know what those of you think about this set, both in terms of sound and performance.

I bought this some years ago on an Abeille sale (sighs), and I have always thought it to be quite good. The sound is warm and transparent. I always feel I can pick out the individual strains, which is something I always like to hear. They really play as one in terms of flow and phrasing. There is also a lightness (and fun) to their playing that seems to suit this music. So I cannot say how it compares, but in and of itself is quite well done.

EDIT: You can also sample them on youtube

[The new erato]

Thanks Neal for your comments on the 'piano box' - I did not see that post - we must have been typing at about the same moment looking at the timing of our posts - BOY, 20 discs of Rheinberger, if I get both boxes!  Plus, that 'chamber box' is quite good, too.  Dave

I have all three and like them all. The piano box impressed me the most. With 30 CDs of Rheinberger there still are a lot to cover, amongst them his main body of work, the music for organ (20 organ sonatas etc). His list of pupils make him a most interesting figure. Liechtenstein's most famous composer BTW.

[SonicMan46]

I have all three and like them all. The piano box impressed me the most. With 30 CDs of Rheinberger there still are a lot to cover, amongst them his main body of work, the music for organ (20 organ sonatas etc). His list of pupils make him a most interesting figure. Liechtenstein's most famous composer BTW.

Hi New Erato - thanks for your comments on the Rheinberger piano box - enjoy the chamber music set that I own - will put the composer's piano works on my 'wish list'!  Dave

[amw]

You are right, I think it's a very stimulating recording. Thanks. The whole business of the 1838 edition is interesting- it certainly does not sound the same.

You may enjoy Lonquich's Schubert, which is also really distinctive. I can upload it for you if you want.

Holliger's great! Amazing fugue.

The Holliger is one of my favourite piano pieces. (It was dedicated to András Schiff, I'm actually sort of keen to hear him playing it, don't think there's a recording.) As for Lonquich I think I was curious about his Schubert album with ... Carolin Widmann? His style in general is super distinctive, I'm not sure it would work for everything... still he seems less egotistical than eg Tzimon Barto and Schubert does require somewhat of a subsumption of the self.

1838 version of Kreisleriana is not that different textually (fewer repeats, a cut in No. 2, and replacement final bars in Nos. 4 and 5) but very different in terms of interpretive and agogic markings. It's the one I'm learning, or trying to in the absence of a proper score (mine has the 1850 text with the 1838 dynamics and tempo marks, and the 1838 textual changes in ossia—I'm hoping interlibrary loan will eventually be able to supply me the 1838 version itself)

I have all three and like them all. The piano box impressed me the most. With 30 CDs of Rheinberger there still are a lot to cover, amongst them his main body of work, the music for organ (20 organ sonatas etc). His list of pupils make him a most interesting figure. Liechtenstein's most famous composer BTW.

I have the piano box. It has the standard Prolific Composer Problem where everything is very good, but nothing is Excellent, so it's hard to determine how much is truly essential. Like... a 3-CD set of 'highlights' might have been better, but what are you going to choose for highlights when everything is basically on the same level?

I do listen to it sometimes but I'm not really at the stage of being able to tell pieces apart reliably. Except the Scherzo from the Sonata No. 3, so far.