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Mandryka

Quote from: (: premont :) on January 07, 2016, 11:51:49 AM

The Barber I find a bit neutral in expression and played on a rather generic organ.


Ah, I shall give it a miss. I've had enough of boring organs from Mikkelsen.

Quote from: (: premont :) on January 07, 2016, 11:51:49 AM


The Davidsson I do not know. Any link?

Yes here

http://www.amazon.com/Georg-Bohm-Orgelwerke-Ghilardi-Smarano/dp/B008I6UDUA/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1452203766&sr=1-1&keywords=davidsson+bohm+cd

But DO NOT buy it. I asked a friend about it and he uploaded it for me -- it's just come through. I'll PM you a link tomorrow evening or Saturday.

I've decided I love Bohm.


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mc ukrneal

Quote from: Daverz on January 07, 2016, 11:11:40 AM
Gouvy: Complete Symphonies

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This was released last summer.  MDT has the best price.

Well worth it in my opinion...
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Wakefield

Quote from: (: premont :) on January 07, 2016, 11:51:49 AM
The Davidsson I do not know. Any link?

I recall I enjoyed one of his disks devoted to Buxtehude: "Dieterich Buxtehude and the Mean-Tone Organ." I recall I thought of him as a warm and relaxed performer, refractory to showiness.
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I've been thinking of purchasing this ever since I heard the news. It'll only duplicate one CD I have and is filled with interesting repertoire....


Mandryka

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Quote from: Gordo on January 07, 2016, 03:14:21 PM
I recall I enjoyed one of his disks devoted to Buxtehude: "Dieterich Buxtehude and the Mean-Tone Organ." I recall I thought of him as a warm and relaxed performer, refractory to showiness.

That CD has a really good passacaglia and Te Deum. 
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prémont

Quote from: Mandryka on January 07, 2016, 12:57:21 PM

I'll PM you a link tomorrow evening or Saturday.

Thanks, very much appreciated.
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prémont

Quote from: Gordo on January 07, 2016, 03:14:21 PM
I recall I enjoyed one of his disks devoted to Buxtehude: "Dieterich Buxtehude and the Mean-Tone Organ." I recall I thought of him as a warm and relaxed performer, refractory to showiness.

You recall correctly. And your description "refractory to showiness" is spot on.

He is not quite refractory to slowness though, but this may in between be kind of virtue.

If you do not know his Weckmann set:

on Motette :

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Matthias-Weckmann-1619-1674-Orgelwerke-Ges-Aufn/hnum/6198635

you ought to get to know it. His second Weckmann set on Loft is fine too, it is just that the organ on the Motette-set works so splendid (Schnitger/Norden) and his playing is generally a bit bolder.

His entire Buxtehude set on Loft is most recommendable too.


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Wakefield

Quote from: (: premont :) on January 08, 2016, 02:00:16 AM
You recall correctly. And your description "refractory to showiness" is spot on.

He is not quite refractory to slowness though, but this may in between be kind of virtue.

If you do not know his Weckmann set:

on Motette :

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Matthias-Weckmann-1619-1674-Orgelwerke-Ges-Aufn/hnum/6198635

you ought to get to know it. His second Weckmann set on Loft is fine too, it is just that the organ on the Motette-set works so splendid (Schnitger/Norden) and his playing is generally a bit bolder.

His entire Buxtehude set on Loft is most recommendable too.

I'll try to get that Weckmann on Motette; the instrument makes a huge difference here.

BTW, when I saw its cover, I thought I had listened to it or, at least, knew it. But was a fail of my memory because I was thinking of Jean-Charles Ablitzer's last disk devoted to "l'école du Nord", with a very similar cover.
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Que

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Quote from: Gordo on January 08, 2016, 05:04:33 PM
I'll try to get that Weckmann on Motette; the instrument makes a huge difference here.

BTW, when I saw its cover, I thought I had listened to it or, at least, knew it. But was a fail of my memory because I was thinking of Jean-Charles Ablitzer's last disk devoted to "l'école du Nord", with a very similar cover.

I can definitely recommend the Weckmann set by Hans Davidsson on Motette as well, quite splendid.

Might be hard to find, though...I will keep eye out.  :)

Q


Mandryka

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Quote from: (: premont :) on January 09, 2016, 02:19:42 AM
https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/art/Matthias-Weckmann-1619-1674-Orgelwerke-Ges-Aufn/hnum/6198635

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000025ZYI?keywords=davidsson&qid=1452338194&ref_=sr_1_13&sr=8-13

http://www.amazon.fr/Oeuvre-Pour-Orgue-Mathias-Weckman/dp/B000025ZYI/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1452338322&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=weckmann+davidsson

3 different options concerning Davidsson´s Weckmann(Motette) set.

Good morning gentlemen,


The review by Nicolas on Amazon.fr is interesting because it raises a question which I think about a lot, to do with flamboyance and stylus phantasticus.

QuoteLe jeu de Davidsson est ici un jeu chatoyant, virevoltant, qui multiplie les effets rhétoriques dans la clarté mais aussi et en mouvement perpétuel vers l'avant dans un style plus improvisé que composé, presque une caricature de "stylus phantasticus" précoce. Je préfère peut-etre l'intégrale plus austère et spirituelle (on peut se demander si c'est la même oeuvre) qu'il enregistrera 16 ans plus tard à l'orgue néo-schnitgerien de Göteborg (copie de l'orgue de la Jakobi Kirche de Hambourg dans le buffet de celui, disparu, de Luebeck) sur des registrations plus sobres et fondues mais il est très difficile de ne pas succomber à ce feu d'artifice expressif, éminemment baroque au sens premier.

I'll just report that it's Foccroulle's Weckmann which I love the most, precisely because it's so restrained and so lyrical. I think I must have caught a disease or something through listening to too much Richard Egarr  :D
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prémont

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Quote from: Mandryka on August 08, 1974, 01:45:16 PM


The review by Nicolas on Amazon.fr is interesting because it raises a question which I think about a lot, to do with flamboyance and stylus phantasticus.

Le jeu de Davidsson est ici un jeu chatoyant, virevoltant, qui multiplie les effets rhétoriques dans la clarté mais aussi et en mouvement perpétuel vers l'avant dans un style plus improvisé que composé, presque une caricature de "stylus phantasticus" précoce. Je préfère peut-etre l'intégrale plus austère et spirituelle (on peut se demander si c'est la même oeuvre) qu'il enregistrera 16 ans plus tard à l'orgue néo-schnitgerien de Göteborg (copie de l'orgue de la Jakobi Kirche de Hambourg dans le buffet de celui, disparu, de Luebeck) sur des registrations plus sobres et fondues mais il est très difficile de ne pas succomber à ce feu d'artifice expressif, éminemment baroque au sens premier.


I'll just report that it's Foccroulle's Weckmann which I love the most, precisely because it's so restrained and so lyrical. I think I must have caught a disease or something through listening to too much Richard Egarr  :D

Nicolas obvious has got a point there. But while I prefer Davidsson I, this does not imply, that I do not appreciate the more restrained style of Foccroulle.
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revdrdave

I purchased all the volumes in Bonizonni's Italian Cantata series and found them extraordinary. He's now begun a series covering duets. Anyone have any experience with these? What do you think?

JCBuckley

Quote from: revdrdave on January 09, 2016, 05:46:37 AM
I purchased all the volumes in Bonizonni's Italian Cantata series and found them extraordinary. He's now begun a series covering duets. Anyone have any experience with these? What do you think?

I have the Duetti da Camera CD, and for me it's as fine as all the other recordings in the Bonizzoni Handel series. Am now awaiting the arrival of the latest one:


The new erato

Quote from: JCBuckley on January 09, 2016, 06:25:52 AM
I have the Duetti da Camera CD, and for me it's as fine as all the other recordings in the Bonizzoni Handel series. Am now awaiting the arrival of the latest one:
I have them both, You will ve very happy with them.

Que

Quote from: Mandryka on January 09, 2016, 02:32:48 AM
Good morning gentlemen,


The review by Nicolas on Amazon.fr is interesting because it raises a question which I think about a lot, to do with flamboyance and stylus phantasticus.

QuoteLe jeu de Davidsson est ici un jeu chatoyant, virevoltant, qui multiplie les effets rhétoriques dans la clarté mais aussi et en mouvement perpétuel vers l'avant dans un style plus improvisé que composé, presque une caricature de "stylus phantasticus" précoce. Je préfère peut-etre l'intégrale plus austère et spirituelle (on peut se demander si c'est la même oeuvre) qu'il enregistrera 16 ans plus tard à l'orgue néo-schnitgerien de Göteborg (copie de l'orgue de la Jakobi Kirche de Hambourg dans le buffet de celui, disparu, de Luebeck) sur des registrations plus sobres et fondues mais il est très difficile de ne pas succomber à ce feu d'artifice expressif, éminemment baroque au sens premier.

What??   :o Davidsson is not austere and spiritual enough, too playful and too capricious?   ???
In my frame of reference, if anything, Davidsson is quite actual on the introvert, serious and spiritual side. I cannot believe my eyes... ::)

Q


prémont

Quote from: Que on January 09, 2016, 11:45:10 AM
What??   :o Davidsson is not austere and spiritual enough, too playful and too capricious?   ???
In my frame of reference, if anything, Davidsson is quite actual on the introvert, serious and spiritual side. I cannot believe my eyes... ::)

I think it is true, that he was more playful in his early recordings  and became more serious during the years.
But I do not think, that the earlier recordings are lacking in spirituality.
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revdrdave

Quote from: The new erato on January 09, 2016, 07:51:07 AM
I have them both, You will ve very happy with them.

Thanks to you and JCBuckley both!

Mandryka

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Quote from: Que on January 09, 2016, 11:45:10 AM


What??   :o Davidsson is not austere and spiritual enough, too playful and too capricious?   ???
In my frame of reference, if anything, Davidsson is quite actual on the introvert, serious and spiritual side. I cannot believe my eyes... ::)

Q

I don't know, I'll try to compare the two Weckmann recordings later (my head is too full of Hindemith to do it now!)  The reason I pointed it out was just that I think how flamboyantly to take Buxtehude, Bruhns and maybe Weckmann too seems a really critical question.

It's really interesting to compare Davidsson's Buxtehude with Koopman (Opera Omnia) in that respect. Something like the G minor buxwv149. The two approaches seem to locate Buxtehude in different traditions: serious phlegmatic north versus hot headed and flashy south.
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