Recommend Me Some 20th Century 'Pastoral' Symphonies

Started by snyprrr, April 09, 2012, 07:06:01 AM

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snyprrr

I'm going on from Honegger's 4th, Milhaud's 1-2,... I just NEED something lazy, summery,...mm...I don't know, the Milhaud are pretty nap inducing,... perhaps summer nap Symphonies? Some of the Segerstam samples I've heard make for nice nap music, but I don't know if there're violent outbursts or not (don't think so, but...).

I don't want to call Gorescki's 3rd 'pastoral', but, perhaps a 'happy' Gorecki 3rd might be what I'm looking for?... just something 'smooth', something of country fields in the summer...

Sergeant Rock

#1
Frederick Delius, Symphony #3 A major "The Cowpat"

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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KeithW


pjme

Laszlo Lajtha: Symphony nr . 4: Le printemps - lovely. A Hungarian pastoral "à la française"

Erkki Melartin: Symphony nr 4: Summer
The slow movement of nr. 4 ( 3 female voices in "vocalise") is just exquisite.

Symphony No. 4, Summer Symphony (1912): This was the favorite with concert audiences in Melartin's own day, and perhaps still is the favorite with listeners. A gem-like the second movement, Scherzo (Vivace), tells why. Play this movement if you want to make someone a fan of Melartin. It is an exuberant distillation of at least one aspect of the northern summer, like sunlight made audible. To my mind the third movement adds an element of wistfulness (the northerners' consciousness that winter is coming?) before a soloist and then three female voices together enter the work.

Raihala's essay for Finnish Music Quarterly magazine says the "Summer Hymn" that helps anchor the symphony is actually a melody of Swedish origin, though familiar to all Finns. It helps make this symphony a beautiful product of National Romanticism. If you like the voices in the second movement of Carl Nielsen's Symphony No. 3, you'll love the singing in Melartin's No. 4, which seems to me similar in spirit. This may be one of his most visual works. At least the Finnish composer Leevi Madetoja, in his review of the Melartin Symphony No. 4, focused on the visual qualities of the music: "Seldom has the summer nature, its limpid, delicate landscapes, the hushed piety of the white summer night been described with such delightful and confident strokes of the brush."

-- Lance Nixon, MusicWeb International

A glorious summer's day in Croatia: Sunny fields by Blagoje Bersa, not a symphony but a symphonic poem where Mahler, Strauss and Respighi come together in a stunning evocation of a sundrenched landscape (anno 1919).

Arthur Meulemans: May night . Flemish impressionism at its best.
P.


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snyprrr

Quote from: pjme on April 09, 2012, 12:17:27 PM
Laszlo Lajtha: Symphony nr . 4: Le printemps - lovely. A Hungarian pastoral "à la française"

Erkki Melartin: Symphony nr 4: Summer
The slow movement of nr. 4 ( 3 female voices in "vocalise") is just exquisite.

Symphony No. 4, Summer Symphony (1912): This was the favorite with concert audiences in Melartin's own day, and perhaps still is the favorite with listeners. A gem-like the second movement, Scherzo (Vivace), tells why. Play this movement if you want to make someone a fan of Melartin. It is an exuberant distillation of at least one aspect of the northern summer, like sunlight made audible. To my mind the third movement adds an element of wistfulness (the northerners' consciousness that winter is coming?) before a soloist and then three female voices together enter the work.

Raihala's essay for Finnish Music Quarterly magazine says the "Summer Hymn" that helps anchor the symphony is actually a melody of Swedish origin, though familiar to all Finns. It helps make this symphony a beautiful product of National Romanticism. If you like the voices in the second movement of Carl Nielsen's Symphony No. 3, you'll love the singing in Melartin's No. 4, which seems to me similar in spirit. This may be one of his most visual works. At least the Finnish composer Leevi Madetoja, in his review of the Melartin Symphony No. 4, focused on the visual qualities of the music: "Seldom has the summer nature, its limpid, delicate landscapes, the hushed piety of the white summer night been described with such delightful and confident strokes of the brush."

-- Lance Nixon, MusicWeb International

A glorious summer's day in Croatia: Sunny fields by Blagoje Bersa, not a symphony but a symphonic poem where Mahler, Strauss and Respighi come together in a stunning evocation of a sundrenched landscape (anno 1919).

Arthur Meulemans: May night . Flemish impressionism at its best.
P.

What about Nielsen's 6th?


Quote from: eyeresist on April 09, 2012, 05:49:46 PM
And 5, of course.

I was going to exclude that as being too 'Epic', haha!!

snyprrr

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 09, 2012, 07:24:58 AM
Frederick Delius, Symphony #3 A major "The Cowpat"

Sarge

Haha, I probably should recoup some Delius,... you might have hit on it! Perhaps I just didn't want to Thread the word 'Impressionism', but, that IS what I crave here, isn't it? Seriously 'subjective' Impressionism, haha,... I remember a previous Thread of Discontent, haha...




Christo

Tubin 4
Braga Santos 1, 2, 3, 4, 6
Holmboe 3
Madetoja 2, 3
Nielsen 3
Hurun 1
Vaughan Williams 3, 5
Moeran 1
Rawsthorne 2
Lilburn 1, 2
Honegger 4
Röntgen 8
Raid 1
Meulemans 8
&c.




... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

snyprrr

Quote from: Christo on April 09, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
Tubin 4
Braga Santos 1, 2, 3, 4, 6
Holmboe 3
Madetoja 2, 3
Nielsen 3
Hurun 1
Vaughan Williams 3, 5
Moeran 1
Rawsthorne 2
Lilburn 1, 2
Honegger 4
Röntgen 8
Raid 1
Meulemans 8
&c.

Ah, thanks! ;)

Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: snyprrr on April 09, 2012, 06:04:19 PM
Haha, I probably should recoup some Delius,...

That seems to be the kind of music you're looking for. Delius (unlike most of the symphonies suggested in this thread) maintains a mood for the length of the work. Try his On Stepping on the First Cowpat in Spring....I think that was the title  :)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

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Opus106

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 10, 2012, 06:03:30 AM
[Delius] maintains a mood for the length of the work.

Sarge

I was thinking along those lines yesterday. The suggested works by Delius of this 'mood' perhaps all last around 10-20 minutes or less. Could a composer really maintain the same mood (in various shades, let's say) for the length of a symphony? (Labelling your 10-minute piece a symphony is, of course, cheating.  $:))
Regards,
Navneeth

Mirror Image

Quote from: Opus106 on April 10, 2012, 06:38:41 AM
I was thinking along those lines yesterday. The suggested works by Delius of this 'mood' perhaps all last around 10-20 minutes or less. Could a composer really maintain the same mood (in various shades, let's say) for the length of a symphony? (Labelling your 10-minute piece a symphony is, of course, cheating.  $:))

The closest thing Delius came to composing a symphony was A Song of the High Hills. If you don't know it, do become acquinted with it. Lovely work.

Opus106

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 10, 2012, 06:48:21 AM
The closest thing Delius came to composing a symphony was A Song of the High Hills. If you don't know it, do become acquinted with it. Lovely work.

Thanks. :)
Regards,
Navneeth

Christo

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 10, 2012, 06:03:30 AM
Try his On Stepping on the First Cowpat in Spring....I think that was the title  :)

Summer Night on the Bare Cowpat. The Walk to the Cowpat Paradise.  :-X
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Christo on April 10, 2012, 07:48:38 AM
Summer Night on the Bare Cowpat. The Walk to the Cowpat Paradise.  :-X

North Cowpat Sketches.

Over the Cowpat and Far Away.

He wrote a million of 'em  :D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

vandermolen

Quote from: Christo on April 09, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
Tubin 4
Braga Santos 1, 2, 3, 4, 6
Holmboe 3
Madetoja 2, 3
Nielsen 3
Hurun 1
Vaughan Williams 3, 5
Moeran 1
Rawsthorne 2
Lilburn 1, 2
Honegger 4
Röntgen 8
Raid 1
Meulemans 8
&c.

Like all these + Armstrong Gibbs: Symphony 3 'Westmorland', Crossley-Holland: Symphony, Rubbra: Symphony 5: Bax: Symphony 3 (wonderful end section), Ives: Symphony 3, Sibelius: Symphony 6, Miaskovsky Symphony 5, Moyzes: Symphony 7, Nystroem: Sinfonia Del Mare.
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