1950 to 2000

[torut]

I like Cerha a lot. His tape piece Und du... is one of my favourites. However, i find myself struggling with some of his chamber works.

I heard Cerha's SQ a long time ago and didn't feel much, but recently found Schlagzeugkonzert, et Impulse very impressive. I want to check Spiegel, other orchestral works, and SQs (again.)

[Philo]

The amazing Joan La Barbara's The Reluctant Gypsy

Extended technique combined with Meredith Monk and calls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmYA5imuyw

[torut]

The amazing Joan La Barbara's The Reluctant Gypsy

Extended technique combined with Meredith Monk and calls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzmYA5imuyw

It's beautiful. Thank you. I used to avoid modern/contemporary works for voice (I even haven't heard Monk), but I am now interested in.
How do you think of this: Shaun O'Dell - Looming Sound (2010)?

[Philo]

It's beautiful. Thank you. I used to avoid modern/contemporary works for voice (I even haven't heard Monk), but I am now interested in.
How do you think of this: Shaun O'Dell - Looming Sound (2010)?

That's pretty interesting. Actually reminded me of something that La Monte Young might compose.

[torut]

That's pretty interesting. Actually reminded me of something that La Monte Young might compose.

Thank you for bothering to listen to it. It just occurred to me when I heard Joan La Barbara. It seems Reluctant Gypsy had been released only in LP format? It's unfortunate.

[torut]

Thanks to the posts & good comments about Walter Zimmermann, I am enjoying Songs of Innocence and Experience. I hear John Cage's influence, but is it only me? Wikipedia says: Zimmerman's works are infused by a personal adaptation of minimal technique. [...] Zimmermann has drawn a great deal of inspiration from his Franconian heritage. A number of his works, particularly his groups of pieces known as Lokale Musik, use the traditional music of this area as source material.

This book seems interesting but is now OOP.
Zimmermann, Walter (1976). Desert Plants: Conversations With 23 American Musicians. Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada: A. R. C. Publications.

[torut]

Ishmael Wadada Leo Smith - String Quartet 1 (1969, rev. 1980)
performed by The Formalist Quartet for Beyond Baroque's Beyond Music, December 10, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/v/Z4JMinyRDpQ

[not edward]

Thanks to the posts & good comments about Walter Zimmermann, I am enjoying Songs of Innocence and Experience. I hear John Cage's influence, but is it only me? Wikipedia says: Zimmerman's works are infused by a personal adaptation of minimal technique. [...] Zimmermann has drawn a great deal of inspiration from his Franconian heritage. A number of his works, particularly his groups of pieces known as Lokale Musik, use the traditional music of this area as source material.

Nope. '40s Cage is a glaringly obvious influence to me (which doesn't stop me thoroughly enjoying Zimmermann's work).

I heard Cerha's SQ a long time ago and didn't feel much, but recently found Schlagzeugkonzert, et Impulse very impressive. I want to check Spiegel, other orchestral works, and SQs (again.)

I have the cpo recording of the quartets and wanted to like it more than I did. The music felt well-crafted, but unexpectedly anonymous to me (the author of Spiegel isn't someone I expect anonymity from).

On that note, if you enjoyed Impulse and the percussion concerto, you may want to look into the cello concerto on ECM. It's a big-boned, dramatic work in his more recent post-Bergian idiom.

[torut]

Nope. '40s Cage is a glaringly obvious influence to me (which doesn't stop me thoroughly enjoying Zimmermann's work).

There is not so much information about Walter Zimmermann (Wikipedia page is too short), but found this at The Living Composers Project page. So, there is some connection.

He has contributed articles to numerous publications, has written the books Desert Plants (1976, conversations with 23 American composers) and Insel Musik (1981) and edited the collection Morton Feldman Essays (1985). In addition, he co-organized with Stefan Schädler the Anarchic Harmony Festival in Frankfurt/Main in 1992, a tribute to John Cage on his 80th birthday.

I have the cpo recording of the quartets and wanted to like it more than I did. The music felt well-crafted, but unexpectedly anonymous to me (the author of Spiegel isn't someone I expect anonymity from).

On that note, if you enjoyed Impulse and the percussion concerto, you may want to look into the cello concerto on ECM. It's a big-boned, dramatic work in his more recent post-Bergian idiom.

Thank you for your recommendation. I will check it.

[torut]

Helmut Zapf (born 1956)

Sound (1993) for String Quartet
Sonar Quartett
https://www.youtube.com/v/DsjpiQgNfAg

Frühling (1999) for harp and accordion
Eva Curth, harp; Eva Zöllner, accordion
https://www.youtube.com/v/eLReiGzIejI

Helmut Zapf is a German composer, studied church music at the church music schools in Eisenach (1974-79), worked at the town church in Eisenberg as the organist and choirmaster (1979-82), then studied under Georg Katzer at the Academy of Arts of the GDR in Berlin (1982-86).

[torut]

Nam June Paik: "Prepared Piano for Merce Cunningham" (1977)

https://www.youtube.com/v/qbbTdAujrTc

This is nice. It's more ... nihilistic (can't find a good word) than Cage's. Thank you.
I have not heard of any music for prepared piano other than Cage's, and web search found nothing except mention of Henry Cowell. Are there other compositions for prepared piano?

[torut]

Nathaniel Tull Phillips (born 1969)

Horologium du Futur Past, sextet (2000)

Flag, a work for player piano

Chrysanthemum, a work for vibes (inspired by fractal-like processes)

[Octave]

Nam June Paik: "Prepared Piano for Merce Cunningham" (1977)

Closely connected, of course, with Charlotte Moorman...a fellow grad of your alma mater.   

[some guy]

This is nice. It's more ... nihilistic (can't find a good word) than Cage's. Thank you.
I have not heard of any music for prepared piano other than Cage's, and web search found nothing except mention of Henry Cowell. Are there other compositions for prepared piano?

http://www.amazon.com/The-extended-piano-alcides-lanza/dp/B0018T93P0/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1398508386&sr=8-13&keywords=richard+bunger

http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Bunger-Delores-Stevens-Prepared/dp/B00396Z1OM/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1398508386&sr=8-15&keywords=richard+bunger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14jPvnWhdNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_OhcAAz0SE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjWYts63HW4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo-QV2jiSUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EODoJckh5vY

There's even pop prepared piano.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgph8aPmRJs

Of course, that's the one that NPR picks up....

[torut]

http://www.amazon.com/The-extended-piano-alcides-lanza/dp/B0018T93P0/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1398508386&sr=8-13&keywords=richard+bunger

http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Bunger-Delores-Stevens-Prepared/dp/B00396Z1OM/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1398508386&sr=8-15&keywords=richard+bunger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14jPvnWhdNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_OhcAAz0SE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjWYts63HW4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo-QV2jiSUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EODoJckh5vY

There's even pop prepared piano.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgph8aPmRJs

Of course, that's the one that NPR picks up....

Thank you very much, some guy. I had a fun time. I liked Essl, Wolf, Tutschku. Entrada is like torturing the piano. I don't know what is happening in Neumann's work. (By the way, the video of Neumann with Vertex and Axel Dörner seems interesting.)

[some guy]

I saw the premiere of the Tutschku work. Tutschku was there. Brümmer introduced him to me, again.

Second impression was much better.

Andrea is just spectacular. I've seen her live a couple of times. Too few. Way too few. One reason I've moved to Europe is to be able to see her more often.

[torut]

I searched Andrea Neumann, and found this which more clearly shows what she was doing. (But is it the same work as the youtube?)

andrea neumann - inside piano
acoustic fields festival, sound art exhibition ESC im Labor, graz 11.june - 2.july 2010
http://vimeo.com/14577016

[some guy]

She does improv.

She's usually in a group, too. At least with one other improviser. Which is why I chose that youtube of just her.

Thanks for the reminder about the vimeo clip. For some reason, I keep forgetting that one. And it's much better in every way.

[torut]

I was reading old posts of 21st century music thread and found that William Basinski's Nocturnes (thanks to sanantonio, as usual) is a work of prepared piano according to the description: Tape loops of prepared piano [...] begun in 1979 and completed in 2012.

[cjvinthechair]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs7pZMMI5hE   Symphony no. 2 'Ricordanze'

Usually found 'lurking' in this thread rather than contributing, but have found in Wilhelm Killmayer a 'modern' composer I can really enjoy. Anyone have any thoughts, or recommendations of others similar ?
Thanks !