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Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« on: October 24, 2012, 02:36:51 AM »
I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2012, 02:58:37 AM »
I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...

Its like comparing Apples to Pears. To think in terms of  being equal to this or that composer is a dead end in itself. Faure's chamber music is very well composed, that it does not move you is a personal thing. Music touches you or it doesn't, as simple as that.

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Re: Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2012, 03:16:33 AM »
Its like comparing Apples to Pears. To think in terms of  being equal to this or that composer is a dead end in itself. Faure's chamber music is very well composed, that it does not move you is a personal thing. Music touches you or it doesn't, as simple as that.
I'm just looking for recommendations. I hadn't discovered Dvorak's piano quartets until recently. I might try a little more to get into Faure. It is personal. But Dvorak really blew me away. Thanks for the reply. Perhaps my post is a bit shallow.

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2012, 03:21:19 AM »
Dvorak's piano quintets and trios are superb, too, but you probably know that already.

Its like comparing Apples to Pears.
That would be a strange comparison
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2012, 03:27:15 AM »
Try Ignaz Lachner's trios for violin, viola and piano. They are superb.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2012, 03:30:51 AM »
Try Ignaz Lachner's trios for violin, viola and piano. They are superb.


OK! Thanks for the recommendation.

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2012, 03:39:33 AM »
I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...

Beethoven is not a Romantic era composer.  Faure was a great artist, his chamber music is some of the finest ever written.  I notice that Tchaikovsky is not on your short list.  Do you dislike his music too?  If you simply haven't heard it try his chamber music.  Also Arensky's Piano Trio.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2012, 03:45:13 AM »
Tchaikovsky
Yes! His piano trio is a fantastic work. Also Rachmaninoff's Trio Elegiaque No. 2, written after Tchaikovsky's death.
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2012, 04:13:36 AM »
You could consider Farrenc, Arensky, Gernsheim, and Saint-Saens.
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Re: Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2012, 05:31:53 AM »
I've just been listening to Faure's piano quartets and, to be honest, I'm not terribly moved by them so far. I'm a big fan of piano trios, quartets and quintets by Beethoven (trios) Schubert (trios), Schumann, Mendelssohn, Brahms and Dvorak. I'm wondering what other romantic piano chamber music people love. Do people think Faure is on par with the works of the aforementioned composers? What about Hummel, Onslow, etc.? I'm curious if people think other composers equal or come close to the ones I've mentioned in this category...

On par? Absolutely!! Faure all the way.  But I like the quintets better than the quartets (NB the quintets are considerably later works).  The Domus recording of the quintets is one of my favourite discs ever.

To be honest, I'm having a hard time with the idea of being a fan of the Brahms and not being a fan of the Faure. They're in a similar part of my musical map.
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Re: Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2012, 06:03:16 AM »
On par? Absolutely!! Faure all the way.  But I like the quintets better than the quartets (NB the quintets are considerably later works).  The Domus recording of the quintets is one of my favourite discs ever.

To be honest, I'm having a hard time with the idea of being a fan of the Brahms and not being a fan of the Faure. They're in a similar part of my musical map.

The difference between Faure quartet recordings is pretty huge. I switched from the Brilliant Classics one to Trio Wanderer's recording and was really pretty amazed at how much more powerful the music got.

My favorite romantic piano quartets and quintets just have to include Schumann, Dvorak, Taneyev, Faure, and ...Herzogenberg!

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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2012, 08:06:12 AM »
Fauré's Piano Quintets are absolutely fantastic works. His Piano Quartets are almost as great.

Taneyev's works kick ass.

As an Elgarian I find Elgar's Piano Quintet magnificent!
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Re: Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2012, 06:09:27 PM »
Fauré's Piano Quintets are absolutely fantastic works. His Piano Quartets are almost as great.

Taneyev's works kick ass.

As an Elgarian I find Elgar's Piano Quintet magnificent!
I'll keep listening to the Faure. Perhaps it will grow on me. I like the Sherzo in the first quartet. I'll check our Elgar.
Thanks for the recommendation.

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2012, 11:37:04 PM »
Cesar Franck Piano Quintet is a very beautiful, passionate work.

Regarding Fauré my first choice goes to the piano Trio and the two piano Quintets.

The best piano Quartets I ever heard (excepting Mozart) are those of Brahms, in special the first and the third.

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Re: Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2012, 11:55:30 PM »
I recently discovered the Trio Hochelaga and their recordings of, for the most part, non-mainstream French chamber music - Dubois, Migot, Lekeu, etc.
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2012, 12:03:04 AM »
Not exactly a piano quintet but Chausson's Concert for Violin, Piano and String Quartet is a gem.
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Re: Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2012, 12:18:18 AM »
I would like to recommend Juliusz Zarębski's Piano Quintet.

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2012, 01:57:00 AM »
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Re: Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2012, 05:41:10 AM »
I would like to recommend Juliusz Zarębski's Piano Quintet.
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Re: Romantic Piano Trios, Quartets and Quintets
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2012, 04:13:32 PM »
Foerster piano trios:



A favorite recording of the Taneyev Trio:

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