What are you listening to now?

[Mirror Image]

I have to say my reaction was similar to mc ukrneal. Since when is it "illogical" or out of the ordinary to comment that, for example, a composer's concerti are more successful than their symphonies, or that their piano music is more appealing than their orchestral music, etc? Didn't you, very recently, say that you found Prokofiev's Ballet music superior to his Symphonic works? What's the difference?

And if a person admires a composer and uses that composer as an avatar, it is obligatory to point out to them whenever you find a work superior to a work of that composer?

No, you did not post anything overtly offensive, but my impression upon reading the exchange is that, for whatever reason, you wanted to cause offense, which stings all the more because in the pasty kyjo has treated you as a friend on this board.

Just my two cents.

I agree with mc ukrneal: Even though you didn't mean offense or even ribbing or prodding, the fact is that it was perceived that way. Maybe unreasonably from your point of view, but certainly not crazy-unreasonably. There are different levels of sensitivity out there (changes day-to-day; I should know -- sometimes I get very thin-skinned myself). And it's just nice for the overall climate if one apologizes for having given offense, quite regardless of whether one meant to give offense or not. In fact, isn't it more logical to say something conciliatory after offending when one didn't mean to offend? Anyway, I'm sure we'll get over this just fine. Cheers & fuzzy thoughts

P.S. Anyone watch the Vikings game? Ohhhhhhhhhmygawd!

After a good night's rest, I've come to conclusion that it would be best if I did apologize as from an outsider I can see how my post would be viewed as quite a negative one. So Neal, Scarpia, and Jens, you are all correct in each of your posts.

An apology is certainly in order here: Kyle if you're reading this post, I'm truly sorry for that post and I hope we can still be friends. No hard feelings.

I would, however, like to point out something that I find ironic ---- a few months ago, I had a negative exchange with the member orfeo. I flat-out told him I was offended by his posts and his constant prodding of me, but where were the other members here telling orfeo that he needed to apologize to me? There were a few responses to his posts that came to my defense, but none of them calling him out for the way he treated me and telling him he needed to apologize. I guess my point here is if we're going to look out for each other and point things out that were said, then we need to do that for everyone and not just for a select few.

Jens - Re: Vikings vs. Saints

That was an amazing game! How lucky were the Vikings?!?!? What a great play at the very end. I thought for sure the Saints had the game won by one point considering there was 15 seconds left on the clock and Vikings weren't even close to the touchdown line. I was happy to see the Vikings win as I never liked the Saints.

[mc ukrneal]

After a good night’s rest, I’ve come to conclusion that it would be best if I did apologize as from an outsider I can see how my post would be viewed as quite a negative one. So Neal, Scarpia, and Jens, you are all correct in each of your posts.

An apology is certainly in order here: Kyle if you’re reading this post, I’m truly sorry for that post and I hope we can still be friends. No hard feelings.

I would, however, like to point something that I find ironic ---- a few months ago, I had a negative exchange with the member orfeo. I flat-out told him I was offended by his posts and his constant prodding of me, but where were the other members here telling orfeo that he needed to apologize to me? There were a few responses to his posts that came to my defense, but none of them calling him out for the way he treated me and telling him he needed to apologize. I guess my point here is if we’re going to look out for each other and point things out that were said, then we need to do that for everyone and not just for a select few.

Perhaps a PM (to him, not us!) would not go amiss...

I agree that we should have a cordial atmosphere throughout. If that is not the case, members should be called out. I don't remember reading the exchange you refer to, but will try to track it down. As a minimum, we could flag such posts to the mods if unwilling to post ourselves.

[Spineur]

I prefer the first disc devoted to Anton Reicha string quintet & quartets to the second disc with some of his piano compositions

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[Mirror Image]

I agree that we should have a cordial atmosphere throughout. If that is not the case, members should be called out. I don't remember reading the exchange you refer to, but will try to track it down. As a minimum, we could flag such posts to the mods if unwilling to post ourselves.

Neal, if I flagged every post that I found offensive, especially in the political threads such as the "Sound the TRUMPets" thread, then the moderators would put me on ignore! It's just not worth the effort. So, in short, we all need to abide by civil behavior and be more sensitive to other's viewpoints. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem like it will happen, especially if some members don't take note and try to change their behavior.

As for the exchange I had with orfeo, you're one of the ones that commented, but you didn't ask for an apology, which I most certainly deserved. But, I will say, we shouldn't fuel an environment where everyone is walking on eggshells and tiptoeing around people's feelings all the time. We should be free to offer criticism anytime we want and feel the need to do so. But a little more sensitivity towards others is most definitely in order.

[Zeus]

Spooky!  I listened to this yesterday, as well.  Wonderful music.

I know!  I live next door!  You should turn your volume down if you don't want me to post your listening choices!   


Just kidding of course... you should turn your volume up and open the windows!

[Mirror Image]

3 Small Tone Poems (I. Summer Evening, II. Winter Night (Sleigh Ride), III. Spring Morning):



Absolutely delectable. Wonderfully atmospheric.

[Wanderer]

In fact, I'd say that Shelley's Grieg here is more interesting than the newest Chandos CD featuring Bavouzet performing the same work.

It is, indeed.


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[Spineur]

Scott Ross recorded this album after finishing his monumental Scarlatti integral.

I love the fandango that opens the album. It combines a gypsy dancing spirit with a meditative dimension typical of Padre Antonio Soler.

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[Mahlerian]

Bruckner: Mass No. 3 in F minor
Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra and Chorus, cond. Rögner
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[Todd]

Disc three.  Jones plays the Canción y Danza with nice rhythmic and tonal variation, but it seems to lack a little something special.  It is still good.  Paisajes, though, is marvelous.  A blend of impressionism and something altogether more abstract, Jones plays these subdued yet modern pieces superbly.

[Baron Scarpia]

After a good night's rest, I've come to conclusion that it would be best if I did apologize as from an outsider I can see how my post would be viewed as quite a negative one. So Neal, Scarpia, and Jens, you are all correct in each of your posts.

Glad that you've come to see it from a different point of view. Anyone can write something that inadvertently offends. It was the pointed refusal to apologize that really gave the impression that you had a bee in your bonnet, so to speak.

[Spineur]

Koechlin: melodies and women choruses

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Koechlin is at his best when composing for ensembles.  Here, the women choruses are so original and beautiful more so than the melodies which are in a typical post impressionist style.

[Mandryka]

Anonymous 4 Mass for the end of Time. This is "heavely length" Music, and like with Schubert or with Feldman, you have to be in the mood or it's too arduous.

The pureness of what these ladies do - a sound the colour of spring water; an intense accuracy, so that the music sounds as if it's materialising very cleanly and sharply and naturally with no incobrances or ornamentations   - is IMO extremely beautiful, and I'd say, because of the sweetness of their voices, humane too.

It's challenging to stay focused, like in a Bhuddist meditation. But I've been in this space before with Schubert and Feldman and Nono.

[The One]

SACD

[HIPster]

Anonymous 4 Mass for the end of Time. This is "heavely length" Music, and like with Schubert or with Feldman, you have to be in the mood or it's too arduous.

The pureness of what these ladies do - a sound the colour of spring water; an intense accuracy, so that the music sounds as if it's materialising very cleanly and sharply and naturally with no incobrances or ornamentations   - is IMO extremely beautiful, and I'd say, because of the sweetness of their voices, humane too.

It's challenging to stay focused, like in a Bhuddist meditation. But I've been in this space before with Schubert and Feldman and Nono.

Thanks, Mandryka.  Great review! 

I plan to seek this recording out. 

Now playing ~

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A recent purchase.  I am really enjoying these early Haydn Symphonies. 

[North Star]

G'day, HIPster!

Thread-duty - Maiden-listen Monday
Bach
Disc 1:
Christen, ätzet diesen Tag, BWV 63
Gloria in excelsis Deo, BWV 191
Claron McFadden (S), Bernarda Fink (A), Christoph Genz (T), Dietrich Henschel (B)
The Monteverdi Choir
The English Baroque Soloists
John Eliot Gardiner
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[Judith]

Been a bit adventurous today and listened to Bruckner Symphony no 4 by Royal Concergebouw conducted by Riccardo Chailly. Very impressed. Found it melodious and had hints of no 9 in it or should it be the other way round?

[Baron Scarpia]

Been a bit adventurous today and listened to Bruckner Symphony no 4 by Royal Concergebouw conducted by Riccardo Chailly. Very impressed. Found it melodious and had hints of no 9 in it or should it be the other way round?

? What was the adventurous part, Chailly, the Concertgebouw, Bruckner, or the 4th? 

[Daverz]

It is, indeed.


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Really enjoyed the Burleske.

[Zeus]

Les Grâces Françoises: Music of the French Baroque




Also: Griffes: The Pleasure Dome of Kubla Khan, etc