What are you listening to now?

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Karl Henning

Quote from: André on January 26, 2018, 12:34:54 PM
The timing difference stems from Norrington's willingness to observe the silliest repeat ever penned in a score. Who would want to march to the scaffold twice ?  ???

One may yet wish to delay arrival at the scaffold  8)

Another case where good friends can disagree sharply:  I find nothing remotely silly about that repeat.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: The One on January 27, 2018, 08:00:24 AM
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Good disk, I like it!



Wanted to hear this excellent RV 579 again. The rest is nice too!  :)

8)
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Baron Scarpia

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 27, 2018, 08:10:08 AM
One may yet wish to delay arrival at the scaffold  8)

Another case where good friends can disagree sharply:  I find nothing remotely silly about that repeat.

I assume he got a last minute injunction, it was overturned, back to the scaffold we go.

SonicMan46

Quote from: Gordo on January 27, 2018, 02:30:22 AM
Anyway, usually downloads include a digital booklet, so there is not problem at all, dear Dave!  :)

Quote from: The One on January 27, 2018, 02:45:18 AM
Sure. I "believe" that Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin don't play with the "correct" feeling. :)

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on January 27, 2018, 07:10:26 AM
In any case, I listened to some of the samples and was attracted to the gruff playing of the natural horns. It's in my shopping cart for further consideration.

Hi Gordo - thanks again for the Telemann recommendation below - found the Amazon USA link and ordered the CD from the MP - should be here soon!  For those interested, see the attachment which includes four excellent reviews of this recent recording (selection of the month on MusicWeb).

For today, Boccherini - Clavier Quintets - may be a Luigi weekend for me!  8)  Dave

 

Mahlerian

Beethoven: Piano Concerto No. 1 in C
Murray Perahia, Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, cond. Haitink
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

North Star

Scarlatti
Sonatas Kk. 162-172 (disc X)
Scott Ross

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Haydn
Symphonies nos. 91-93
Orchestra of the 18th C.
Brüggen

[asin]B01BHFPU3S[/asin]

Leiden Choirbooks
Cornelius Canis: Missa pastores loquebantur, a6
Egidius Kwartet & College

[asin]B00YJKUZ1Q[/asin]

Langgaard
Symphony No. 15 'The Sea Storm' BVN 375 (1937/1949)
Johan Reuter (baritone)
Danish National Symphony Chorus & Orchestra
Thomas Dausgaard

[asin]B001MUJSF0[/asin]
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

My photographs on Flickr

aligreto

Langgaard: The Time of the End [Dausgaard]....





This is a first listen to this work for me. I really liked both its lyricism and its drama. The vocals, from all concerned, are impressive. The direction is also very tight and highlights the tension and drama very well with the orchestra responding very well.

North Star

Quote from: aligreto on January 27, 2018, 08:42:28 AM
Langgaard: The Time of the End [Dausgaard]....


This is a first listen to this work for me. I really liked both its lyricism and its drama. The vocals, from all concerned, are impressive. The direction is also very tight and highlights the tension and drama very well with the orchestra responding very well.
My first Langgaard disc, and it's a beauty.

Thread duty
Weiss
The London m.s. (disc 10)
Michel Cardin

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"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

My photographs on Flickr

Harry

Quote from: Florestan on January 27, 2018, 07:55:02 AM
Ignoring people who disagree with you is not going to make them disappear and indeed betrays psychological immaturity: the world is full of such people; if you can't, or won't, deal with it (and them) on an innocuous internet board, how will you deal with them in the actual life? And besides, voluntarily reading and hearing and being exposed to only opinions which align with your own is a sign of either fanaticism or insecurity, usually both, and makes the world boring as hell.

I have never ignored anyone, nor will I ever do it. The more diverse and contradictory the opinions, the more stimulating the environment.

I am disagreeing with the points I highlighted, psychological immaturity   that is quite a statement, and untrue. It is good sense that if people irritate you to ignore them, on GMG and in the real world. That does not mean I am incapable of dealing with them, no, I simply will not put energy into the affair. You may come to the same conclusion when you get older, and dare I say it...wiser.
Fanaticism insecurity, strong words, but in this case you must apply them to yourself. Quite judgemental, and a lack of insight in what is really going on in a mind that tries to avoid conflict.
I've always had great respect for Paddington because he is amusingly English and a eccentric bear He is a great British institution and emits great wisdom with every growl. Of course I have Paddington at home, he is a member of the family, sure he is from the moment he was born. We have adopted him.

Christo

Quote from: aligreto on January 27, 2018, 06:20:11 AM
Lamb: The Children of Lir....





A favourite of mine.
Found it! (probably never played it; will do now).  :-X
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

aligreto

Quote from: Christo on January 27, 2018, 09:21:40 AM



Found it! (probably never played it; will do now).  :-X

Wonderful; I would be very interested to read what you thought of it  :)

aligreto


The One

L'Arte del Mandolino Barocco

Florestan

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Quote from: Harry's corner on January 27, 2018, 08:53:38 AM
It is good sense that if people irritate you to ignore them, on GMG and in the real world.

On GMG you can ignore them for sure, but how can you ignore people who irritatingly disagree with you in the real world? There is no "ignore" button in real life.

QuoteFanaticism insecurity, strong words, but in this case you must apply them to yourself. Quite judgemental, and a lack of insight in what is really going on in a mind that tries to avoid conflict.

Trying to avoid conflict is commendable. Deliberately and consistently ignoring people who disagree with you and ideas and notions that contradict your own is another. I'd say that conflicts are usually created exactly by people who can't stand opinions diverging from their own and who think and believe that, until and unless the whole world thinks and believes as they do, it lacks harmony and unity and is prone to conflict. Speaking one's own mind is not creating conflict, otherwise we should all shut up and never utter any opinion whatsoever for fear that it might be cause for conflict, because for every conceivable opinion there is probably at least one person who disagrees. (A very good example is your reaction. When I wrote about fanaticism and insecurity the last person I had in mind was you. The very fact that you were annoyed by my remarks is proof that we never know who might be inadvertently offended by our opinions and statements, but as far as I am concerned, this is no reason for not expressing them at all. Inadvertencies and misunderstandings are the unavoidable price of free speech.) But then again, there is conflict and conflict. Two or more people arguing rationally and in a civil manner while being aware that the only agreement they might eventually reach is to respectfully disagree is one type of conflict; yelling insults and ad hominem at one another while believing there is one and only one side that is right and must win, obviously one's own, is another. Refraining from the former in the name of avoiding the latter results not in conflicts being avoided, but in conflicts being primarily of the second type.

Wow, I so love reading myself...  :laugh:

EDIT: And honestly, my friend, you're not particularly succesful at avoiding conflict, at least not when recordings that you deeply admire and appreciate are deprecated, in which case you react strongly. Not that I object to that, it's just an observation. More power to you as far as I am concerned.  :)

"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

Harry

Quote from: Florestan on January 27, 2018, 10:11:30 AM
On GMG you can ignore them for sure, but how can you ignore people who irritatingly disagree with you in the real world? There is no "ignore" button in real life.

Trying to avoid conflict is commendable. Deliberately and consistently ignoring people who disagree with you and ideas and notions that contradict your own is another. I'd say that conflicts are usually created exactly by people who can't stand opinions diverging from their own and who think and believe that, until and unless the whole world thinks and believes as they do, it lacks harmony and unity and is prone to conflict. Speaking one's own mind is not creating conflict, otherwise we should all shut up and never utter any opinion whatsoever for fear that it might be cause for conflict, because for every conceivable opinion there is probably at least one person who disagrees. (A very good example is your reaction. When I wrote about fanaticism and insecurity the last person I had in mind was you. The very fact that you were annoyed by my remarks is proof that we never know who might be inadvertently offended by our opinions and statements, but as far as I am concerned, this is no reason for not expressing them at all. Inadvertencies and misunderstandings are the unavoidable price of free speech.) But then again, there is conflict and conflict. Two or more people arguing rationally and in a civil manner while being aware that the only agreement they might eventually reach is to respectfully disagree is one type of conflict; yelling insults and ad hominem at one another while believing there is one and only one side that is right and must win, obviously one's own, is another. Refraining from the former in the name of avoiding the latter results not in conflicts being avoided, but in conflicts being primarily of the second type.

Wow, I so love reading myself...  :laugh:

EDIT: And honestly, my friend, you're not particularly succesful at avoiding conflict, at least not when recordings that you deeply admire and appreciate are deprecated, in which case you react strongly. Not that I object to that, it's just an observation. More power to you as far as I am concerned.  :)

Not annoyed Andrei, just sad, that you have to release an avalanche of words over me, I who is less adapted in the English language as you are.
But I still do not agree with you.
I have experienced and not only I that trying to resolve issues is often a waste of time.  Not all of them but most of them.
I had my fare share of that on GMG, and now think that it is better to pass such situations...
And yes you can also avoid conflicts in real life too, and the edit you put in your posting even disappoints me more.
I am more successful in avoiding conflicts as you think, be it as it may, you have it your way.....
I've always had great respect for Paddington because he is amusingly English and a eccentric bear He is a great British institution and emits great wisdom with every growl. Of course I have Paddington at home, he is a member of the family, sure he is from the moment he was born. We have adopted him.

Florestan

Quote from: Harry's corner on January 27, 2018, 10:36:36 AM
I still do not agree with you.

And I'm fine with that.

Quotebe it as it may, you have it your way.....

My purpose in writing my post was not to have it my way or throw an avalanche of words at you, but just to clarify my position.

Like I said, agreeing to disagree is often a legitimate outcome of a debate and doesn't in any way preclude friendship and mutual respect, of which be assured from my part.
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

André




Disc 1 of this pair of Naxos releases. A few weeks ago I had listened to disc 2:




The 2 quartets are big works, too long to fit on a single disc, while the trios are more slender creatures, making a whole  disc seem rather short. So, this is a logical and rewarding solution, providing continuity (same composer) and contrast (plenty). In all 4 works the musical kernel is the slow movement, where dare I say Reger outdoes Brahms in his exploration of unfettered, almost naked high romantic feelings. Where Brahms is wistful and melancholy, Reger is not shy of offering deeper inquests.

The string trios are immediately appealing, disarmingly sincere, beauty-drenched works. The piano quartets, some 15+ minutes longer offer more in terms of structural/architectural meat. They could very well be tought of as reductions of 2 lost symphonies. This pair of discs offers a wonderful complement to the more commonly encountered string quartets or violin sonatas. There are other versions on the market, but these seem perfectly fine in terms of commitment and proficiency.

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The cover pic of the DaCapo disc is an illustration by danish caricaturist/satirist Storm P., whose work every Dane knows and presumably treasures. His works are still in current print 75-100 years after their publication, as calendars, hard cover compilations etc:



Composer Riisager was a huge fan and close friend of Storm P. Together they devised a ballet, which was premiered in 1930. Titled Benzin, it's about that motorcyclist, see, who runs out of gas and sends a country lad fetch him a gallon or two of benzin (petrol). Meanwhile he starts fooling around with the peasant's girlfriend. Etc, etc. No drama, no murder, and all's well that ends well. Conceived as a spoof, the simple plot proved unpalatable to the danish musical establishment, who gave it two thumbs down and effectively killed its career (it got only 3 performances).

Divorced from its visual context the music must stand on its own if it's to command the listener's interest. I found it entertaining, with nice tunes and ingenious orchestration, but no more than, say, Tansman's Bric-à-brac, Sauguet's Les forains or Poulenc's Les biches. More to my liking was the strange, provocative Archaeopteryx, a quarter of an hour depiction of the prehistoric bird/lizard.

All told, a nice disc, but not as good IMO than the other discs in DaCapo's Riisager series.

André

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on January 27, 2018, 08:10:08 AM
One may yet wish to delay arrival at the scaffold  8)

Another case where good friends can disagree sharply:  I find nothing remotely silly about that repeat.


I know, we've had this little discussion before. Which proves we're both consistent in our opinions. What's important is that we both base it on good arguments and that the other is of course wrong  ;D.

I love your « delayed arrival » comment - couldn't be more to the point   :laugh:. I'll have it in mind next time I hear the repeat taken.

André

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Quote from: Que on January 27, 2018, 01:24:58 AM
Decided to dedicate more time to old favourites that I haven't heard in a long time...

 

Q

For the past 25 years I've been perfectly content to listen to the Hervé Niquet discs. But my little finger is itching to tell me it might be time for another take on these marvelous works. Thanks for this, I wasn't aware of these discs' existence. And Harry's endorsement is, of course, a further incentive to be serious about it  ;).

Que

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Quote from: André on January 27, 2018, 11:16:43 AM
For the past 25 years I've been perfectly content to listen to the Hervé Niquet discs. But my little finger is itching to tell me it might be time for another take on these marvelous works. Thanks for this, I wasn't aware of these discs' existence. And Harry's endorsement is, of course, a further incentive to be serious about it  ;).

It was our new erato that recommended the Gilles set (3CD, pictured at the right) to me.  :)

But I expect Niquet to be excellent as well. Do you have the Requiem issued on Virgin or the 3 volumes of choral works on Adda?

Q