What are you listening to now?

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Peregrine

Yes, we have no bananas

Madiel

Quote from: James on November 28, 2013, 05:43:55 AM
Well business practices notwithstanding, the performances sold out and it was a critical success.

Yea but when you approach something as incredibly complex & layered like LICHT in such a frivolous manor, what you have to say doesn't matter at all.

If you had the faintest idea about my day, you would know that frivolity was the furthest thing from my mind.

Your entire approach to Stockhausen IS hilarious by the way. Having looked at the composer thread, could you possibly learn to use hyperlinks instead of constantly breaching other people's copyright by pasting entire articles?
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Harry



Giacomo Carissimi (1605-1674).
. Oratorio Jonas.
- Cum repleta esset Ninive.
- Et proeliabantur venti.   
- Jonas autem in interiobus navis. 
- Tulerunt nautae Jonam et miserunt in mare. 
- Justus es, Domine.         
- Et imperavit Dominus pisci.
- Peccavimus, Domine.

. Oratorio Jephte.
- Cum vocasset in proelium.   
- Cum vidisset Jephte.           
- Plorate colles, dolete montes.
- Plorate filii Israel plorate.     

  Oratorio Ezechia.
- Aegrotante Ezechia.                 
- Obsecro, Domine.                   
- Misertus est autem Dominus...     
- Dextera Domini fecit virtutem.       
- Narribimus omnes opera Domini.

Les Voix Baroques olv. Alexander Weimann.

:)


Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

kishnevi

Quote from: James on November 28, 2013, 08:56:19 AM
Less than novice talk, as usual. And your Bach btw .. is dependant on old technology, but also loads of that new technology to make the musical result your listening to possible on that recording.

But the performers needed no new technology to peform it, unlike anything KHZ produced, only instruments that have been around for the last two hundred years.

Can't you just accept the fact that for some of us Stockhausen was an overhyped musician who produced little or nothing of value, and that our preferences in music don't match yours?

Quote from: orfeo on November 28, 2013, 11:28:48 AM
If you had the faintest idea about my day, you would know that frivolity was the furthest thing from my mind.

Your entire approach to Stockhausen IS hilarious by the way. Having looked at the composer thread, could you possibly learn to use hyperlinks instead of constantly breaching other people's copyright by pasting entire articles?

You don't understand James.  In his vocabulary, frivolous means not listening to the music of KHZ with the same veneration that James has for that composer.

Thread duty:
N. Rimsky-Korsakov :Symphonies 1 (in e minor Op. 1) and 2 ("Antar" Op. 9)/Overture to the Tsar's Bride/Fantasia on Serbian Themes
Philharmonia Orchestra/Yondani Butt  (rec. March 1997)

Not sure when, or even if,  I've listened to this First Symphony before; I know I've listened to Antar but recall nothing about it, so both are effectively maiden listens.

Madiel

I actually have appreciated some short Stockhausen pieces. But if taking him seriously involves believing he was from Sirius and being convinced of the profundity of a bunch of singing monks taking turns to smash coconuts, I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

kishnevi

Quote from: orfeo on November 28, 2013, 12:15:09 PM
I actually have appreciated some short Stockhausen pieces. But if taking him seriously involves believing he was from Sirius and being convinced of the profundity of a bunch of singing monks taking turns to smash coconuts, I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid.

I'm fairly sure that not even James thinks KHZ was actually from Sirius.   As for the monks--well, most of the monks I have ever met have always had a good sense of humor.  Whether KHZ had one is a different story.

Quote from: James on November 28, 2013, 12:21:33 PM
Your argument is empty, but sure you can rattle away your frustrations .. all I can do is chuckle.

But we do have solid evidence that James lacks a sense of humor.

Thread duty:
No coconuts were harmed in the performance of this music.
N. Rimsky-Korsakov  Symphony No. 3 in C, Op. 32 /Fairy tale (Skazka) (Op. 29)--LSO (rec. 1985)
                                 Overture on Russian Themes--Philharmonia (rec. 1998)
                                 Yondani Butt, conducting.
As far as I can recall,  these are first listens to all three works.

All this R-k, btw, is from the Brilliant 100CD Symphonies box.

Harry

#14486
Joan Cabanilles (1644-1712).
Tiento XIV partit de ma dreta De clarins.
Tiento XXIV lleno.
Tiento XXIII por A la mi re.
Léon Berben, organ by Lorenzo de Arrázola (1761), San Martín de Tours, Ataun, Spain.


Tiento XXIII por A la mi re.
Corrente Italiana (Obertura).
Hespèrion XX, Jordi Savall.


Tiento 1º tono en tersio a modo de Italia.
Duo "El galán que ronda las calles" al Santisimo Sacramento, a 2 y continuo.
Pasacalles de 3ro tono.
Gallardas de 1º tono.
Tocata de mano izquierda 5º tono.
Jan Willem Jansen, 15th century organ by San Pablo in Zaragoza, Spanje. Los Musicos de Su Alteza, Luis Antonio González.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Harry

I always thought that Sockhausen was a lot of ugly noise, it never came to my mind that this could actually be music. ;D ;D ;D
I have a sense of humor though. So I say, tis all Humbug!
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Madiel

Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Madiel

Via Spotify:

Stockhausen: Zyklus

Performed by Jonny Axelsson.

Nice.
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

pjme

Not even an hour ago, at Antwerp's "de Singel" concerthall:

Olivier Messiaen's Turangalila symphony. Edo de Waart conducting the Antwerp PhO, Ralph van Raat piano and Thomas Bloch ondes Martenot.

it is an impressive spectacle: ca 100 musicians in utmost concentration, Edo de Waart leading them in a real "performance".

But I find Turangalila not convincing as a whole: just too many ear-shattering climaxes ... and the impassioned Lovesong - theme very close to kitsch.

Still: a great evening.

Next week: Elgar nr. 2...

P.

Sadko

Stockhausen.

I couldn't find anything in his music before, but I found his remark about September 11 so repellent and inhumane that I have not the slightest inclination to ever again expose myself to his output:

Quote,,Also was da geschehen ist, ist natürlich - jetzt müssen Sie alle Ihr Gehirn umstellen - das größte Kunstwerk, was es je gegeben hat ..."
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Stockhausen)

My translation: "Obviously, what has happened there is - all of you have to re-adjust your brains now - the greatest work of art that ever existed"

Madiel

Quote from: Sadko on November 28, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
Stockhausen.

I couldn't find anything in his music before, but I found his remark about September 11 so repellent and inhumane that I have not the slightest inclination to ever again expose myself to his output:
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Stockhausen)

My translation: "Obviously, what has happened there is - all of you have to re-adjust your brains now - the greatest work of art that ever existed"

*Burns fancard*
Nobody has to apologise for using their brain.

Lisztianwagner

Gustav Mahler
Symphony No.8




Part 1
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

mahler10th

Quote from: Sadko on November 28, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
Stockhausen.
I couldn't find anything in his music before, but I found his remark about September 11 so repellent and inhumane that I have not the slightest inclination to ever again expose myself to his output:
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Stockhausen)
My translation: "Obviously, what has happened there is - all of you have to re-adjust your brains now - the greatest work of art that ever existed"
>:(
Thank you for that.  I had no idea.  Such a thing enrages me, I have very little Stockhausen, and in about ten seconds I will have none at all. 

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sadko on November 28, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
Stockhausen.

I couldn't find anything in his music before, but I found his remark about September 11 so repellent and inhumane that I have not the slightest inclination to ever again expose myself to his output:
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Stockhausen)

My translation: "Obviously, what has happened there is - all of you have to re-adjust your brains now - the greatest work of art that ever existed"

There's no stepping back from that nonsense, is there?  Man must have been (wait for it) tone-deaf.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: James on November 28, 2013, 03:16:20 PM
You guys are just too much lol ..

Ah, the sound of a fanboy in denial.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

mn dave


Sammy

Quote from: James on November 28, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
In denial of what? I was just laughing at the mounting absurdity from all the grown men here.

But some of us are getting shorter. ;D

not edward

Quote from: Sadko on November 28, 2013, 01:26:33 PM
Stockhausen.

I couldn't find anything in his music before, but I found his remark about September 11 so repellent and inhumane that I have not the slightest inclination to ever again expose myself to his output:
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Stockhausen)

My translation: "Obviously, what has happened there is - all of you have to re-adjust your brains now - the greatest work of art that ever existed"
Far be it for me to defend Stockhausen, but this quote is misleading and selective: Stockhausen actually referred to 9/11 as Lucifer's greatest work.

While probably self-indulgent in referring to Lucifer in the sense of the Licht cycle as well as as the Devil, removing that part of the quote does turn what he said around 180 degrees.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music