What are you listening to now?

[Moonfish]

You are not to listen to that set before I get mine, dammit, Peter the mooncat (or is it catfish..)! 
Do you know that there will be a complete box?
Of course, Suzuki isn't the only HIP cycle with sopranos.

I couldn't help it! I just....had...to....open it!   
Hmm, yes, I have been eyeing the "box" but my credit card shook its head fiercely. It is a bit on the expensive side. Besides, I wanted to sample Suzuki a bit before even considering such an huge investment. It will be one of those "buy it a few years from now" items. 
I was considering changing my name to Mooncat so you are right in target!   

[Moonfish]

I saw that after posting
But I can't believe it will stay at that level...

BIS seems to keep their prices up on an almost eternal basis.     
Perhaps the company will change its pricing as it cannot be competitive with any of the other Bach cycles at that level...?

[Moonfish]

So, the good news is that the box is expensive enough for me to not worry about getting a part of it because I'm not paying that much for it, and the bad news is that the box is expensive enough for me to not buy it.. Just as I figured earlier, BIS wouldn't price the single discs too cheaply, no matter the size of the box, so even if it drops to, say 5€ / disc for 75 discs it's not going to be an affordable set. I was hoping they'd reissue the individual sets, as they're not selling the complete Sibelius edition as a single set either.

I wonder how they keep their business going with their policy. Small volume with high prices...    I am in the same boat as you North Star and will just wait for a few years. Perhaps we will be lucky with a one day pricing mistake somewhere? 

[Moonfish]

Florilegium Musicale           Camerata Köln
Vivaldi/Marcello/Quantz/J Chr Bach/Fasch

Excellent recording giving rise to a very enjoyable Baroque afternoon in my home.

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[Cosi bel do]

I wonder how they keep their business going with their policy. Small volume with high prices...    I am in the same boat as you North Star and will just wait for a few years. Perhaps we will be lucky with a one day pricing mistake somewhere? 

Don't worry. From my experience EVERYTHING becomes cheap someday. And it takes less and less time, year after year. Either BIS lowers the price, or the whole set will get licensed by Brilliant or another label, or BIS will be bought by Universal or Warner or Sony and then we'll see all that and the Sibelius come at reasonable prices. I any case I predict this set will be on our shelves for 100€ or less at some time before 2020. Just the time I need to listen to Gardiner's cycle

[North Star]

BIS seems to keep their prices up on an almost eternal basis.     
Perhaps the company will change its pricing as it cannot be competitive with any of the other Bach cycles at that level...?

I wonder how they keep their business going with their policy. Small volume with high prices...    I am in the same boat as you North Star and will just wait for a few years. Perhaps we will be lucky with a one day pricing mistake somewhere? 

Hah! Not too likely. 

Don't worry. From my experience EVERYTHING becomes cheap someday. And it takes less and less time, year after year. Either BIS lowers the price, or the whole set will get licensed by Brilliant or another label, or BIS will be bought by Universal or Warner or Sony and then we'll see all that and the Sibelius come at reasonable prices. I any case I predict this set will be on our shelves for 100€ or less at some time before 2020. Just the time I need to listen to Gardiner's cycle

And the world will stop using paper after Internet. 

[Moonfish]

Don't worry. From my experience EVERYTHING becomes cheap someday. And it takes less and less time, year after year. Either BIS lowers the price, or the whole set will get licensed by Brilliant or another label, or BIS will be bought by Universal or Warner or Sony and then we'll see all that and the Sibelius come at reasonable prices. I any case I predict this set will be on our shelves for 100€ or less at some time before 2020. Just the time I need to listen to Gardiner's cycle

Touché!  Definitely sufficient time to delve deeper into the cantata cycles we already have on our shelves....

[Moonfish]

Hah! Not too likely.  :(And the world will stop using paper after Internet. 

I believe fiercely in serendipity!!   0:) 0:) 0:) 0:)

[Moonfish]

Il Violino
JS Bach/Veracini/Westhoff           Capriccio Stravagante




Mussorgsky/Ravel: Pictures from an Exhibition
Ravel: Le tombeau de Couperin

Chicago SO/ Solti

[Cosi bel do]

Hah! Not too likely. 

Well, just think.



This was 5000€ or an equivalent 15 years ago. Today, the whole lot comes in decades at 150-200€ each, and probably after that in a few years we'll see a new big 242 CD box at less than 400€.



This was 1000€ bach in 2000. The same thing in the latest edition is usually priced between 250-300€ and regularly available at lower prices.

So, BIS might try to resist, but they'll follow. Others tried to resist too (Harmonia Mundi for instance) but they almost disappeared and then decided (still very late) that if they wanted to survive they'd better accommodate the market.

[Moonfish]

Mahler: symphony no 8. Soloists, various choirs and Tonhalle, Zürich Orchestra under the expert hand of David Zinman. On RCA. Superb performance and recording.

+1
I am really enjoying Zinman's Mahler cycle as well! Great recordings indeed!

[Ken B]

You are not to listen to that set before I get mine, dammit, Peter the mooncat (or is it catfish..)! 
Do you know that there will be a complete box?
Of course, Suzuki isn't the only HIP cycle with sopranos.

Moonfish is a notorious for getting stuff first. Everything We both order he gets a day earlier.  AND he listens to it. He's ruthless and shameless! He has no pity in him!

[Mirror Image]

What do you think of the Aventures and Nouvelles Aventures? 0:)

I like almost all of the Ligeti I've heard with the exception of the Cello Concerto.

Edit: On my Ligeti to-do list is finally buckling down and buying a recording of his sole opera Le Grande Macabre. Any suggestions anyone? Salonen?

[North Star]

Well, just think.

This was 5000€ or an equivalent 15 years ago. Today, the whole lot comes in decades at 150-200€ each, and probably after that in a few years we'll see a new big 242 CD box at less than 400€.

This was 1000€ bach in 2000. The same thing in the latest edition is usually priced between 250-300€ and regularly available at lower prices.

So, BIS might try to resist, but they'll follow. Others tried to resist too (Harmonia Mundi for instance) but they almost disappeared and then decided (still very late) that if they wanted to survive they'd better accommodate the market.

Yes, it all depends on whether BIS will maintain a clientèle ready to buy their product at the prices and in the form they sell it. I'm sure that it can't go on for several decades.

Moonfish is a notorious for getting stuff first. Everything We both order he gets a day earlier.  AND he listens to it. He's ruthless and shameless! He has no pity in him!

Indeed, Peter ought to be ashamed of himself. Especially since I'll be going to my parents for the rest of the year on Monday and most probably won't see the box until January. I hope the post office will store it until I get back..

[EigenUser]

I like almost all of the Ligeti I've heard with the exception of the Cello Concerto.

Edit: On my Ligeti to-do list is finally buckling down and buying a recording of his sole opera Le Grande Macabre. Any suggestions anyone? Salonen?

Wow! Even Artikulation?*

I don't care to listen to Aventures and Nouvelles Aventures much, but seeing a good video performance is very entertaining (and I imagine seeing it live would be even more entertaining). I don't like the Cello Concerto -- maybe I should say that I don't get the Cello Concerto, and I've heard it many, many times. I will be seeing it live at Juilliard in two months, so maybe that will clear things up for me.

Speaking of Ligeti that I don't like, I also don't like the organ work Volumina. Nor do I like the Three Pieces for Two Pianos much.

*I actually like Artikulation because (1) it is short and (2) it has a cartoonish, playful sound. Far from my favorite Ligeti, but I do enjoy it on occasion.

Are you familiar at all with the Etudes?

[Ken B]

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[niknala]

Lumieres - Music of the Enlightenment

CD 9: From 'Sinfonia' to 'Sinfonie' —

Giovanni Battista Sammartini – Sinfonia JC14, JC39  — Ensemble 415 — Chiara Banchini
Wilhelm Friedemann Bach – Sinfonie in Fmaj Falck 67  — Akademie fur Alte Musik Berlin — Stephan Mai
Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach – Orchester-Sinfonie no.1 Wq.183/1  — The English Concet — Andrew Manze
Johann Christian Bach – Symphony in G min Op.6/6  — Akademie fur Alte Musik Berlin — Stephan Mai
Luigi Boccherini – Symphony 'La cas del Diavolo' op.12/4 G.506  — Ensemble 415 — Chiara Banchini

[Mirror Image]

Wow! Even Artikulation?*

I don't care to listen to Aventures and Nouvelles Aventures much, but seeing a good video performance is very entertaining (and I imagine seeing it live would be even more entertaining). I don't like the Cello Concerto -- maybe I should say that I don't get the Cello Concerto, and I've heard it many, many times. I will be seeing it live at Juilliard in two months, so maybe that will clear things up for me.

Speaking of Ligeti that I don't like, I also don't like the organ work Volumina. Nor do I like the Three Pieces for Two Pianos much.

*I actually like Artikulation because (1) it is short and (2) it has a cartoonish, playful sound. Far from my favorite Ligeti, but I do enjoy it on occasion.

Are you familiar at all with the Etudes?

I'm somewhat familiar with the Etudes, but orchestral and chamber music is more of my bag than solo piano.

Thread duty -

Continuing on with the Sinopoli Second Viennese School box set on Teldec:





Listening to Berg's Violin Concerto. This is sounding like a nice performance so far with Reiko Watanabe on violin.

[Philo]

Today was piano works of Greig (amongst so much more), and this wonderful piece:

https://www.youtube.com/v/NPwAYzRrez4

[Wakefield]

Frans Brüggen: Haydn [Sturm und Drang Symphonies - Paris Symphonies - London Symphonies]



CD1-5
Orchestra of the Age of the Enlightenment

I have listened to the five disks of the "Sturm und Drang" symphonies with enormous pleasure.

Conducted by Brüggen with iron fist, these interpretations are more classically oriented than guided by "Storm and Stress" elements.

Anyway, and quite curiously, the music gains a good amount of tension because of the contrast between the music itself (apparently) calling for a more freewheeling interpretation and the great amount of dedication that Brüggen invests in delivering a more classical and detailed approach.