Behold, the Sea.

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jochanaan

"Way, hey, and up she rises!" ;D
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vandermolen

Quote from: Christo on June 04, 2013, 12:05:51 PM
Oops. Forgot another fine sea disc, starting with Estonian composer Veljo Tormis' Ocean (an orchestral suite from a play), turning into Debussy's sea and finishing with two swans: Swan Flight, again by Veljo Tormis, and the one from the river of death, or Tuonela. Recommended.
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Looks like a most interesting CD. Thanks for posting it.
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vandermolen

Quote from: listener on June 04, 2013, 06:44:49 PM
Howard HANSON's  Symphony no.7 is "A Sea Symphony"  (1977)

Yes, that is a fine valedictory work, with a moving quotation from his famous 'Romantic Symphony'.

It has just been reissued on Naxos:
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Just remembered this.  Bloch IMHO is a very underrated composer who wrote some wonderful music:
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

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Bogey

Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2013, 04:07:41 AM

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I would buy it for the cover alone.
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Sean

Quote from: jochanaan on June 05, 2013, 07:44:47 AM
"Way, hey, and up she rises!" ;D

Percy Grainger now? The drunken sailor...?

Karl Henning

Quote from: vandermolen on May 28, 2013, 05:37:15 AM
I also like the Sea Interludes - especially in the Previn EMI recording.

Hey, curiously, I've got those as "filler" in the two-fer reissue of Previn conducting the Shostakovich Fourth and Fifth (and the marvelous Sinfonia da Requiem thrown in, to boot).
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vandermolen

Quote from: karlhenning on June 06, 2013, 04:08:47 AM
Hey, curiously, I've got those as "filler" in the two-fer reissue of Previn conducting the Shostakovich Fourth and Fifth (and the marvelous Sinfonia da Requiem thrown in, to boot).

That is a great double CD set Karl
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

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Sainton's 'The Island' is fine sea music. It is also on a double Chandos CD of his music with Hadley's 'The Trees so High' - one of my favourite works. Sainton's 'Nadir' written in response to witnessing the death of a child in the London Blitz is an absolute masterpiece,
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"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Irons

Saved by the search tool! I did think of starting a thread on one of my favourite musical subjects, the Sea only to find as I always do that it has already been done.

A few favourites in no particular order of mine. Which others are liked by forum members?

Frank Bridge: The Sea.

Britten: Four Sea Interludes.

Ibert: Symphonie Marine.

Rangstrom: 3rd Symphony.

Elgar: Sea Pictures.

Mendelssohn: The Hebrides.

Bax: The Garden of Fand.

Bax: Tintagel. (Tintagel is a place but is sea music).
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

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vandermolen

Quote from: Irons on July 27, 2019, 01:09:11 AM
Saved by the search tool! I did think of starting a thread on one of my favourite musical subjects, the Sea only to find as I always do that it has already been done.

A few favourites in no particular order of mine. Which others are liked by forum members?

Frank Bridge: The Sea.

Britten: Four Sea Interludes.

Ibert: Symphonie Marine.

Rangstrom: 3rd Symphony.

Elgar: Sea Pictures.

Mendelssohn: The Hebrides.

Bax: The Garden of Fand.

Bax: Tintagel. (Tintagel is a place but is sea music).
Interesting list Lol. I especially like the Frank Bridge work and your list has encouraged me to listen again to the Ibert. I just bought a CD twofer including Symphonie Marine but have not listened to it yet. I always liked Rangstrom's First Symphony and hope to listen to No.3 soon. I hardly know the Elgar but like the Britten and Bax very much. I prefer Tintaget to the Fand work but need to listen to it again.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Irons

Quote from: vandermolen on July 27, 2019, 01:47:17 AM
Interesting list Lol. I especially like the Frank Bridge work and your list has encouraged me to listen again to the Ibert. I just bought a CD twofer including Symphonie Marine but have not listened to it yet. I always liked Rangstrom's First Symphony and hope to listen to No.3 soon. I hardly know the Elgar but like the Britten and Bax very much. I prefer Tintaget to the Fand work but need to listen to it again.

I listened to Symphonie Marine this morning, Jeffrey. It has the lot far as I'm concerned, being rhythmic, solo saxophone, seascape and superb sound (Frémaux). I like Rangstrom's 1st too. I thought given the title I would also like the 2nd but surprisingly I was disappointed. The 3rd is truly back to form, a splendid symphony which he composed "under the impact of a nocturnal sailing trip out to sea". The 4th I have not heard and believe it not to be released on LP, but now I have a decent CD player I'll purchase a copy on that format in the near future. 
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

relm1



This one is moody and fog soaked impressions of the sea:


and one of Herrmann's finest scores, the evocative early Ghost and Mrs. Muir.

vandermolen

Quote from: relm1 on July 27, 2019, 09:11:35 AM


This one is moody and fog soaked impressions of the sea:


and one of Herrmann's finest scores, the evocative early Ghost and Mrs. Muir.

What a great selection of film scores!
I agree that The Ghost and Mrs Muir is Hermann's finest score. Do you know 'Moby Dick' by Philip Sainton? It is another of my favourite scores.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Iota

I don't think anybody's yet mentioned Koechlin's beautifully contemplative Paysages et Marines. I have a feeling Keith Jarrett amongst others might feel a certain kinship. Anyway I'd recommend it wholeheartedly.

Quote from: pjme on May 30, 2013, 10:19:23 AMAnd then there is Ghedini's Marinaresca e bacchanale:
from Naxos:
His Marinaresca e baccanale ('Sea Piece and Bacchanale', 1933) is thus revealed as all the more remarkable, springing entirely from his own imagination, unprompted by external stimuli. As John CG Waterhouse, the English expert on Italian music of the period, pointed out, the Marinaresca is 'one of the very few twentieth-century musical seascapes that owes virtually nothing to Debussy.¹ The very first bars, in which the lower strings (soon joined by other bass instruments) heave up and down in typically Ghedinian interval patterns, at once suggest a mighty oceanic groundswell, over which the desolately wailing chromatic outlines on the upper instruments suggest (perhaps) the cries of sea birds or the whistling of wind in the rigging. To find comparably bleak, elemental nature music by another composer we must turn not to Debussy but to Sibelius; yet there is nothing Sibelian about the details of Ghedini's style.' Indeed, the boreal seas evoked by other Nordic composers such as Nielsen and Nystroem are more comforting than Ghedini's slow, menacing Marinaresca, with its 'strange, utterly original orchestral effects' (in John Waterhouse's words) and obsessive thematic reiterations. And the wild Bacchanale is scarcely less threatening in its darkly drunken revels. The layered textures—at one point superimposing metres of four against five against six—and strongly rhythmic motifs, particularly for the brass, have occasional affinities with American idioms, of composers such as Roy Harris (1898–1979), or even a man who was aged just three when Ghedini died, Michael Torke (b. 1961). Intriguingly, the orchestra in the only previous recording of this compelling diptych was the New York Philharmonic, conducted by the work's dedicatee Victor de Sabata, a live recording from Carnegie Hall on 5 March 1950.

This sounds very interesting indeed. I will be donning my hunting gear.

North Star

Quote from: Iota on July 27, 2019, 11:52:26 AM
I don't think anybody's yet mentioned Koechlin's beautifully contemplative Paysages et Marines. I have a feeling Keith Jarrett amongst others might feel a certain kinship. Anyway I'd recommend it wholeheartedly.

This sounds very interesting indeed. I will be donning my hunting gear.
I'll have to revisit this. Last year, as I went through the solo piano music in the Haenssler box with chamber music, I'm sure I didn't give enough attention to the music aside from Les Heures Persanes.
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for a large orchestra including 4 saxophones
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Biffo

Quote from: Irons on July 27, 2019, 01:09:11 AM
Saved by the search tool! I did think of starting a thread on one of my favourite musical subjects, the Sea only to find as I always do that it has already been done.

A few favourites in no particular order of mine. Which others are liked by forum members?

Frank Bridge: The Sea.

Britten: Four Sea Interludes.

Ibert: Symphonie Marine.

Rangstrom: 3rd Symphony.

Elgar: Sea Pictures.

Mendelssohn: The Hebrides.

Bax: The Garden of Fand.

Bax: Tintagel. (Tintagel is a place but is sea music).

A fine selection but I don't know the Rangstrom piece and wouldn't count the Ibert as a favourite. I would add Sibelius The Oceanides

relm1


vandermolen

Quote from: Biffo on July 28, 2019, 01:28:19 AM
A fine selection but I don't know the Rangstrom piece and wouldn't count the Ibert as a favourite. I would add Sibelius The Oceanides
+1 for Oceanides
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).