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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2440 on: September 25, 2020, 10:15:13 AM »


not the best version in existence, especially the 2nd movement, but has a fast tempo that makes it different - if perhaps inappropriate ...
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2441 on: September 25, 2020, 11:17:18 AM »


not the best version in existence, especially the 2nd movement, but has a fast tempo that makes it different - if perhaps inappropriate ...

Ooh, I used to love some of those Ansermet recordings, but haven't heard this one. In my book, a fast tempo could work fine in this piece, but then, my range of what is "persuasive" is pretty wide.

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2442 on: September 25, 2020, 03:10:11 PM »
DS resided in Samara for a while during WW II - here one can purchase his CD's.
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2443 on: October 08, 2020, 08:16:32 AM »
New release:
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2444 on: October 08, 2020, 11:29:17 AM »
New release:


but not Shostakovich fils.....?

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2445 on: October 08, 2020, 11:35:10 AM »
but not Shostakovich fils.....?

No, indeed. Especially as I think that his HMV/Melodiya recording of Symphony 15 has never been surpassed. I'm not even sure that it's ever been released on CD.
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2446 on: October 08, 2020, 11:43:43 AM »
Do you know of a detailed content list (conductors per symphony)? I looked around, but didn't find it ...
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2447 on: October 08, 2020, 11:57:48 AM »
Do you now of a detailed content list (conductors per symphony)? I looked around, but didn't find it ...

Not officially released until tomorrow I think.
OK, here goes:

No.1 Rozhdestvensky
No.2 Gergiev
No.3 Rozhdestvensky
No.4 Barshai
No.5 Maxim - so he is there after all!
No.6 Jurowski
No.7 Ivanov
No.8 Mravinsky
No.9 Gergiev
No.10 Maxim and Mravinsky
No.11 Rozhdestvensky
No.12 Mravinsky
No.13 Kondrashin
No.14 Jurowski
No.15 Kondrashin

Think that's right but done in a rush + some shorter works.
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2448 on: October 08, 2020, 11:59:14 AM »
Thank you!

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2449 on: October 08, 2020, 12:00:41 PM »
but not Shostakovich fils.....?

Actually RS Maxim does conduct symphs 5 and 10.
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2450 on: October 08, 2020, 12:27:39 PM »
Thank you!

My pleasure!

Other works included are:

Incidental Music to King Lear (Theatrical production)
Theme and Variations in B flat major, Op.3
Excerpts from The Gadfly
Festive Overture
Scherzo for Orchestra Op.1
+ Premiere recording of Symphony No.10 (1954/Mravinsky)
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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2451 on: October 08, 2020, 02:05:07 PM »
Actually RS Maxim does conduct symphs 5 and 10.

I assume those are the ex-Collins/LSO performances (which I've never heard) rather than the the old Melodiya/HMV recordings I grew up with....?

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2452 on: October 09, 2020, 06:43:33 AM »
I assume those are the ex-Collins/LSO performances (which I've never heard) rather than the the old Melodiya/HMV recordings I grew up with....?

That would be an interesting approach.  The Great Russian Conductors with English orchestras.  I have the Collins recordings of No. 5, 8, and I think 10 (can't remember).  They are excellent and very western sounding so it's interesting approach they didn't stick with Russian orchestras since I'm sure all those conductors worked with the Soviet orchestras in their day.  It might be a mix of Collins and Melodiya though.

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Re: Dmitri's Dacha
« Reply #2453 on: October 09, 2020, 12:55:14 PM »
I assume those are the ex-Collins/LSO performances (which I've never heard) rather than the the old Melodiya/HMV recordings I grew up with....?

Yes, I just checked - they are both from Collins Classics.
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