The 5 Second Music Quiz thread

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EigenUser

Quote from: Dax on February 12, 2015, 11:47:40 AM
29 Trois petites liturgies?
Good guess, but no.

Quote from: Drasko on February 12, 2015, 09:37:19 AM
Could 21 be something by Paul Schonfield, I remember hearing in concert piece by him that had similar soundworld.
Nope.

Hint: The composer of 21 is better known as a pianist.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: EigenUser on February 12, 2015, 02:24:27 PM
Good guess, but no.
Nope.

Hint: The composer of 21 is better known as a pianist.

I'm really stumped by many of these. Could 29 be late Stravinsky, perhaps Threni?

And 14 has me bummed. It sounds like ballet music, completely tonal, but that 7/8 makes it unlikely to be Tchaikovsky. Early Prokofiev or Bartok perhaps?
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

EigenUser

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on February 12, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
I'm really stumped by many of these. Could 29 be late Stravinsky, perhaps Threni?

And 14 has me bummed. It sounds like ballet music, completely tonal, but that 7/8 makes it unlikely to be Tchaikovsky. Early Prokofiev or Bartok perhaps?
Nope. Not late Stravinsky...

...but 14 is indeed early Bartok! The finale of his Suite No. 1, Op. 3, for orchestra. While it doesn't really show too many signs of his mature style (somehow it reminds me of Brahms' Academic Festival Overture), I find it to be a remarkably impressive piece for a first orchestral composition.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Drasko

Quote from: EigenUser on February 12, 2015, 02:24:27 PM

Nope.

Hint: The composer of 21 is better known as a pianist.

Oh fuck, it's Gulda's Cello Concerto. I've heard that one live as well.

EigenUser

Quote from: Drasko on February 12, 2015, 02:46:41 PM
Oh fuck, it's Gulda's Cello Concerto. I've heard that one live as well.
:laugh:

Sure is. Fun piece, too!
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Sean

Was there something about not making all this too difficult?!

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Sean on February 12, 2015, 03:04:34 PM
Was there something about not making all this too difficult?!

You should have seen what we were throwing at each other in the Name that Score thread. But I would have never known that Gulda concerto (oh fuck or otherwise), and I'm still drawing blanks on many of them. Time for some hints, EigenUser, or we'll never have done with this set. Regarding 29, however, am I right in hearing an Amen, sounding like a melodic leading tone to a tonic with dissonant chording, and possibly the ending to a mass? Maybe that will help someone.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Sean

I have enough trouble trying to recall music from the sound without having to work out the sound as well...

EigenUser

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on February 12, 2015, 05:14:24 PM
You should have seen what we were throwing at each other in the Name that Score thread. But I would have never known that Gulda concerto (oh fuck or otherwise), and I'm still drawing blanks on many of them. Time for some hints, EigenUser, or we'll never have done with this set. Regarding 29, however, am I right in hearing an Amen, sounding like a melodic leading tone to a tonic with dissonant chording, and possibly the ending to a mass? Maybe that will help someone.
Nah, not the ending, nor is it a mass.

Ok, here they are:
12. Highly influenced by Debussy, though geographically far away.
13. Originally a set of piano pieces that were orchestrated a few decades later. Very famous composer.
15. Composer who originally planned on being an architect. Not Xenakis (the hint and sound clip might suggest this).
24. British composer.
29. Based off of a philosophical essay. A slightly lesser-known work by a very famous composer.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Drasko

Quote from: EigenUser on February 13, 2015, 12:31:51 AM
Nah, not the ending, nor is it a mass.

Ok, here they are:
12. Highly influenced by Debussy, though geographically far away.
13. Originally a set of piano pieces that were orchestrated a few decades later. Very famous composer.
15. Composer who originally planned on being an architect. Not Xenakis (the hint and sound clip might suggest this).
24. British composer.
29. Based off of a philosophical essay. A slightly lesser-known work by a very famous composer.

12 is probably Takemitsu (Dream/Window?) and 24 could be Birtwistle.

EigenUser

Quote from: Drasko on February 13, 2015, 04:41:53 AM
12 is probably Takemitsu (Dream/Window?) and 24 could be Birtwistle.
Good! 12 is Toru Takemitsu's Dream/Window (the part that reminds me of Mars from Holst's The Planets).

24 is not Birtwistle. The composer of this relatively short 100-person orchestral work is arguably much more 'hip'. I could have posted an excerpt from the 3rd movement and you guys would have probably guessed it immediately. This excerpt is from the beginning of the entire piece.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Sean


(poco) Sforzando

#132
I'll guess Boulez's Notations for 13, though I'll have to pull out the CD again to confirm (I've only heard the orchestral versions a couple of times).

Eigen, you might update your list so we know what's left. (I can easily identify 16 as from the Renaissance, but couldn't pinpoint the exact composer.)
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

EigenUser

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on February 13, 2015, 06:26:42 AM
I'll guess Boulez's Notations for 13, though I'll have to pull out the CD again to confirm (I've only heard the orchestral versions a couple of times).

Eigen, you might update your list so we know what's left. (I can easily identify 16 as from the Renaissance, but couldn't pinpoint the exact composer.)
Notations is correct. It is the last orchestral one (at least, last in Boulez's recommended order), but an orchestration of the 2nd one in the original piano set.

A hint for 18 -- this composer strongly influenced Josquin.

Updated list:
9. Ligeti's Concert Romanesc
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/we4yg3nxs80g57l/Nathan9.mp3[/audio]

10. Stravinsky's Symphonies of Wind Instruments
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/z8m0tqwf8ryqraq/Nathan10.mp3[/audio]

11. Messiaen's Sept Haikai, VI. 'Les Oiseaux de Karuizawa'
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/6woxuhu6d5z27pc/Nathan11.mp3[/audio]

12. Takemitsu's Dream/Window
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/rp77cfndxdr8e4e/Nathan12.mp3[/audio]

13. Boulez's Notations for Orchestra, II. Vif, Stridente (love the description in the tempo marking!)
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/tbz5l9lnxzmcf3m/Nathan13.mp3[/audio]

14. Bartok's Suite No. 1 for Orchestra, 5th movement
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/dahqaej196rf41t/Nathan14.mp3[/audio]

15.
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/aqucibi9h11jl1s/Nathan15.mp3[/audio]

16. Schumann's Symphony No. 2, 4th movement
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/5baousspmz3fpn0/Nathan16.mp3[/audio]

17. Haydn's Symphony No. 93, 2nd movement
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/mraj78z185ifgil/Nathan17.mp3[/audio]

18.
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/3p1ljpxrb173lm0/Nathan18.mp3[/audio]

19. Feldman's Coptic Light
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/r8bqvzh8ho1y7bz/Nathan19.mp3[/audio]

20. Schoenberg's Five Pieces for Orchestra, 1st piece
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ybwguginz69q3na/Nathan20.mp3[/audio]

21. Gulda's Cello Concerto
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/79yhq48lgqaawby/Nathan21.mp3[/audio]

22. Mahler's Symphony No. 9, 3rd movement
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/xo2aa0rcfeme3po/Nathan22.mp3[/audio]

23. Stockhausen's Gruppen
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/8hbq51lyci3gozp/Nathan23.mp3[/audio]

24.
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/r8e4nz2vz2h6gal/Nathan24.mp3[/audio]

25. Messiaen's Turangalila-Symphonie, VII. 'Turangalila II'
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/7yu3c5a879511xz/Nathan25.mp3[/audio]

26. Varese's Ameriques
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/rcfau816s58efz6/Nathan26a.mp3[/audio]

27. Debussy's Trois Nocturnes, III. 'Sirenes'
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zwkycz19e0ud437/Nathan27a.mp3[/audio]

28. Ravel's Daphnis et Chloe, 'Interlude'
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/0wve88frjqju44v/Nathan28a.mp3[/audio]

29.  :'(
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/jaxyh2l5cckez6k/Nathan29.mp3[/audio]
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

(poco) Sforzando

#134
Quote from: EigenUser on February 13, 2015, 09:03:10 AM
Notations is correct. It is the last orchestral one (at least, last in Boulez's recommended order), but an orchestration of the 2nd one in the original piano set.

A hint for 18 -- this composer strongly influenced Josquin.


Ockeghem, most likely.

As for "29. Based off of a philosophical essay. A slightly lesser-known work by a very famous composer," well it's not Also Sprach Zarathustra, and it sure isn't Bernstein's Serenade (based on Plato's Symposium), so that pretty much exhausts all the music based off of a philosophical essay that comes to mind.

And as for the Boulez, bear in mind that these are not just "orchestrations," but substantial re-compositions and expansions. The original piano pieces bear scarce resemblance to the orchestral versions.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

EigenUser

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on February 13, 2015, 11:44:21 AM
Ockeghem, most likely.
Yes, the Kyrie from his Missa Prolationum.

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on February 13, 2015, 11:44:21 AM
As for "29. Based off of a philosophical essay. A slightly lesser-known work by a very famous composer," well it's not Also Sprach Zarathustra, and it sure isn't Bernstein's Serenade (based on Plato's Symposium), so that pretty much exhausts all the music based off of a philosophical essay that comes to mind.
Not sure on how else to give a hint without giving the answer, so here's another (earlier) section:
[audio]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/1zzker0cp2jq6qq/Nathan29-2.mp3[/audio]

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on February 13, 2015, 11:44:21 AM
And as for the Boulez, bear in mind that these are not just "orchestrations," but substantial re-compositions and expansions. The original piano pieces bear scarce resemblance to the orchestral versions.
Oh, I know! You're right -- 'orchestration' is a strong understatement. I knew of the piano pieces first and I was totally amazed at how much material he gathered from the original 12-measure miniatures. I wish he'd publish more orchestrations.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: EigenUser on February 13, 2015, 12:09:14 PM
I wish he'd publish more orchestrations.

I wish he'd write more, but at 90 that's increasingly unlikely.

As for your 29, the new clip sounds more "identifiable," but I have to conclude it's a piece I just don't know.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Sean


Christo

Re 24: have tried James MacMillan (e.g. Three Dawn Rituals) but cannot find it. Is it MacMillan?
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

EigenUser

Quote from: Christo on February 13, 2015, 02:33:07 PM
Re 24: have tried James MacMillan (e.g. Three Dawn Rituals) but cannot find it. Is it MacMillan?
Nope :-\.

It has all sorts of weird percussion instruments in it (which you can probably figure out by the opening five second clip). Even standard percussion instruments are subjected to extended techniques. Gongs dipped in buckets of water, timpani strikes dead-centre, etc. A curious title, too.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".