Beethoven's Piano Sonatas

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jlaurson

Quote from: Todd on June 13, 2012, 05:51:14 AM

Ikuyo Nakamichi   2003-2006

Takahiro Sonoda I   1968-1969


Many thanks!

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: jlaurson on June 13, 2012, 05:48:48 AM
3.) recording dates as you gave me were all I needed! Not bad, banging them out in under two months.

It probably explains why her tempi are so fast. She had to get the job done quickly  :D

Sarge
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George

Now playing:

Opus 2, Gulda, Brilliant Classics.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: George on June 13, 2012, 06:08:53 AM
Now playing:

Opus 2, Gulda, Brilliant Classics.

So is this the same set (plus concerti) under different cover, George?

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George

Correct, karl.

I am not sure if it was remastered, but I haven't heard any bad things about the sound on that one. (and the price on that third party seller is excellent, less than $37? I paid $49 for mine and it didn't have the concertos) The Brilliant issue seems to have gone OOP.
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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: George on June 13, 2012, 06:18:20 AM
Correct, karl.
I am not sure if it was remastered, but I haven't heard any bad things about the sound on that one.

Re-checking the sound now. Spot checked several discs. Sounds fine. Buy with confidence, Karl.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

George

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 13, 2012, 06:25:02 AM
Re-checking the sound now. Spot checked several discs. Sounds fine. Buy with confidence, Karl.

Sarge

Our Karl is in for a treat!  8)
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North Star

I have a single disc from that cycle (opp. 13, 28, 53, 54), and the sound quality is good, and playing a lot better. € 19.99 at Amazon Spain that box.
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George

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Opus106

Quote from: George on June 13, 2012, 06:18:20 AM
Correct, karl.

I am not sure if it was remastered, but I haven't heard any bad things about the sound on that one.

It does say "Neues Remastering". Every box of that German Eloquence series has that rather controversial ASMI logo. Some don't mind it, others berate it (the remastering, not the logo :D), as you may already know. Just this afternoon, I was going through a couple of Usenet discussions on it (both involving a certain M Forever!).
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George

Quote from: Opus106 on June 13, 2012, 07:01:01 AM
It does say "Neues Remastering". Every box of that German Eloquence series has that rather controversial ASMI logo. Some don't mind it, others berate it (the remastering, not the logo :D), as you may already know. Just this afternoon, I was going through a couple of Usenet discussions on it (both involving a certain M Forever!).

There's a blast from the past!
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jlaurson

Quote from: George on June 13, 2012, 06:41:41 AM
The Backhaus set has never been cheaper:

Backhaus, stereo (mostly)

$29.31 new!!  :o (I paid three times that)

What a gorgeous set. Among the olden goldies, my favorite.

Among the newer ones, I actually prefer Oppitz over Lewis & Schiff.

George

Quote from: jlaurson on June 13, 2012, 07:30:15 AM
What a gorgeous set. Among the olden goldies, my favorite.

Since Decca has been reissuing everything under the sun, perhaps they will reissue his mono set, which I find to be a bit better than the stereo.
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jlaurson

Quote from: George on June 13, 2012, 07:32:22 AM
Since Decca has been reissuing everything under the sun, perhaps they will reissue his mono set, which I find to be a bit better than the stereo.

I've never heard it... only of it. Last seen in Italy (Decca Italy has a mind of its own). Am very intrigued, but aware that some of its quality may  be due to the myth that solid OOP endows a recording with. I do, however, like mono-Kempff better, on average... more playful. (However mono-Walcha, in Bach, is decidedly not better.)

Leon

Quote from: jlaurson on June 13, 2012, 07:30:15 AM
What a gorgeous set. Among the olden goldies, my favorite.

Among the newer ones, I actually prefer Oppitz over Lewis & Schiff.

I agree about the Backhaus, I haven't heard the Schiff or Paul Lewis's set but also like the Oppitz very much. 

It is an exciting time for Beethoven sonata sets what with so many new recordings to choose from - new completed sets as well as ones in progress such as Jonathan Biss, F.F. Guy and Stewart Goodyear.

:)

Todd

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Quote from: jlaurson on June 13, 2012, 07:47:18 AMAm very intrigued, but aware that some of its quality may  be due to the myth that solid OOP endows a recording with.



The quality in this case has to do with the playing, not the availability.  When I bought my copy, it was readily available in Europe and Japan, and the stereo set was hard to find.  The mono has all of Backhaus' traits, with better execution.  Alas, the sound is not as good and is bass shy. 
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prémont

Quote from: jlaurson on June 12, 2012, 11:28:33 PM

Todd:

Do you know (of) the Russian (Soviet?) collective set with, among others, Pavel Egorov, Sergey Uryvaev, Igor Urjash, Valery Vishnevsky, Vladimir Shakin, Galina Sandovskaya, Dmitri Efimov, and Igor Lebedev??


I am not Todd, but I own this set (as you can read in reply 838 of this very thread). Of course the set is uneven, but to be fair many of the sets made by only one pianist are uneven too. Most of the pianists of the Rusissian set play with weight and passion, and the distribution on different hands does not in the end detract from the set but results in some favorable variety.
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jlaurson

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Quote from: (: premont :) on June 13, 2012, 08:18:33 AM
I am not Todd,

...no, but your response just as welcome. IT's just that Todd is the most obvious first choice for assuming "having" any LvB Sonata cycle.  ;)

Quotebut I own this set (as you can read in reply 838 of this very thread). Of course the set is uneven, but to be fair many of the sets made by only one pianist are uneven too. Most of the pianists of the Rusissian set play with weight and passion, and the distribution on different hands does not in the end detract from the set but results in some favorable variety.

Just available as single discs/sets (1-10), not a box, right?! (Bomba Piter)

Do you happen to have the recording dates (earliest and last)?

Brautigam Question:

Release of BIS-SACD-1362  (volume 1)
was in 2004. Is that also the recording date?

Release of BIS-SACD-1672 (volume 9, last with core sonatas)
was in 2010. Is that also the recording date?


prémont

Quote from: jlaurson on June 13, 2012, 08:35:54 AM
...no, but your response just as welcome. IT's just that Todd is the most obvious first choice for assuming "having" any LvB Sonata cycle.  ;)
I have been a completist collector in this field for many years and own 57 sets, but in the last years I have concentrated more on my main field of interest: Baroque keyboard music.

Quote from: jlaurson
Just available as single discs/sets (1-10), not a box, right?! (Bomba Piter)
Got the set about five years ago from a local dealer in Denmark in ten individual jewel cases (label: Audiophile classics DDD).

Quote from: jlaurson
Do you happen to have the recording dates (earliest and last)?
The exact recording dates are not published. The set is produced and mastered in St. Petersburg recording studio 1992.
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prémont

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Quote from: jlaurson on June 13, 2012, 08:35:54 AM
Brautigam Question:

Release of BIS-SACD-1362  (volume 1)
was in 2004. Is that also the recording date?

Release of BIS-SACD-1672 (volume 9, last with core sonatas)
was in 2010. Is that also the recording date?

Vol I     was  recorded August 2003
Vol IX   was recorded August 2008

both at Österåker Kyrka, Sweden
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.