New (non-classical) Music Night & Day

[Rinaldo]

I know there's a non-classical listening thread but I find it lacking. Specifically, lacking music that is new. So here's a thread to share all the cutting edge witch house noise pop vaporwave post math core grime stuff one can stumble upon in the 2nd decade of the 21st century. Actually, think of it as an equivalent of the 21st century classical music thread. No oldies allowed!

To kick things off, here's the new album by LoneLady, due 23rd March, available for streaming via The Guardian.

https://www.youtube.com/v/AaWVJCtDdnE

She reminds me of St. Vincent, only less adventurous and more dance-y. Good stuff.

[Jay F]

You might want to use "non-classical" in your headline. Also, "Night & Day" does not suggest new music to me in the least.

[Rinaldo]

You might want to use "non-classical" in your headline. Also, "Night & Day" does not suggest new music to me in the least.

I thought putting this in The Diner makes it obvious but I'll fix it. It's a reference to the working title of David Bowie's Low. Cutting edge, y'know!

[Jay F]

I thought putting this in The Diner makes it obvious but I'll fix it.

Most people (I think) go to "Show unread posts since your last visit" rather than reading each subcategory.

It's a reference to the working title of David Bowie's Low. Cutting edge, y'know!

Just a guess, but I'd imagine Frank Sinatra comes to more minds than David Bowie when someone writes "Night & Day" on a music forum.

[Ken B]

I thought putting this in The Diner makes it obvious but I'll fix it. It's a reference to the working title of David Bowie's Low. Cutting edge, y'know!

That old thing?

[Purusha]

If it is new that you want, new you shall get:

https://www.youtube.com/v/U4GXNzom6ik

[Purusha]

How about something that is new... and classic at the same time?

https://www.youtube.com/v/QMQAKbrWhoI

https://www.youtube.com/v/fNltsEop2dQ

Too bad Dio had lost much of his voice at this point, but this album made me relieve my teenage years for a bit, which was fun.

[Purusha]

I was merely trying inject a bit of testosterone in this thread. Wasn't aware this was about non-classical "art" music. But, if it art music that you want:

https://www.youtube.com/v/O35IigQP8SU&list=PL8WvZFiJpAr1TmUm9_emg5KO0SG6xpd2h&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/v/qhnvp0aMx34

[Rinaldo]

And only a retarded person would put this fluff in the same realm as art music. Wake up folks!

By no means did I intend to trespass on your sacred 'art music' ground, wherever that is.

I'm going to post non-classical music that I enjoy on my own terms and that is 'new' by the simple definition of 'not released years / decades ago'. Feel free to jump in with whatever fresh stuff you find worthy.

Three songs from three great albums of 2014:

https://www.youtube.com/v/G_NIop72vis

https://www.youtube.com/v/O-MYIR407r0

https://www.youtube.com/v/1jSdTBGhDSg

[XB-70 Valkyrie]

How about some chillout, downtempo electronica schlock sonic wallpaper for commuting and the like?

http://somafm.com

[Purusha]

By no means did I intend to trespass on your sacred 'art music' ground, wherever that is.

You did though. This stuff is dreadful. There's nothing worse than something that tries to be "artistic" and pretentious but is barely more sophisticated than your average pop song. It IS mostly fluff with little substance.

This whole hipster phenomena reminds me of something Chesterton wrote in his book "heretics":

Any man with a vital knowledge of the human psychology ought to have the most profound suspicion of anybody who claims to be an artist, and talks a great deal about art. Art is a right and human thing, like walking or saying one's prayers; but the moment it begins to be talked about very solemnly, a man may be fairly certain that the thing has come into a congestion and a kind of difficulty. The artistic temperament is a disease that afflicts amateurs. It is a disease which arises from men not having sufficient power of expression to utter and get rid of the element of art in their being. It is healthful to every sane man to utter the art within him; it is essential to every sane man to get rid of the art within him at all costs. Artists of a large and wholesome vitality get rid of their art easily, as they breathe easily, or perspire easily. But in artists of less force, the thing becomes a pressure, and produces a definite pain, which is called the artistic temperament. Thus, very great artists are able to be ordinary men — men like Shakespeare or Browning. There are many real tragedies of the artistic temperament, tragedies of vanity or violence or fear. But the great tragedy of the artistic temperament is that it cannot produce any art. Whistler could produce art; and in so far he was a great man. But he could not forget art; and in so far he was only a man with the artistic temperament. There can be no stronger manifestation of the man who is a really great artist than the fact that he can dismiss the subject of art; that he can, upon due occasion, wish art at the bottom of the sea. Similarly, we should always be much more inclined to trust a solicitor who did not talk about conveyancing over the nuts and wine. What we really desire of any man conducting any business is that the full force of an ordinary man should be put into that particular study. We do not desire that the full force of that study should be put into an ordinary man. We do not in the least wish that our particular law-suit should pour its energy into our barrister's games with his children, or rides on his bicycle, or meditations on the morning star. But we do, as a matter of fact, desire that his games with his children, and his rides on his bicycle, and his meditations on the morning star should pour something of their energy into our law-suit. We do desire that if he has gained any especial lung development from the bicycle, or any bright and pleasing metaphors from the morning star, that the should be placed at our disposal in that particular forensic controversy. In a word, we are very glad that he is an ordinary man, since that may help him to be an exceptional lawyer. Whistler never ceased to be an artist. As Mr. Max Beerbohm pointed out in one of his extraordinarily sensible and sincere critiques, Whistler really regarded Whistler as his greatest work of art. The white lock, the single eyeglass, the remarkable hat — these were much dearer to him than any nocturnes or arrangements that he ever threw off. He could throw off the nocturnes; for some mysterious reason he could not throw off the hat. He never threw off from himself that disproportionate accumulation of aestheticism which is the burden of the amateur.

Lot's of "artistic temperaments" out there, but very little actual art being made anywhere.

[Ken B]

There is absolutely nothing new about this stuff. It actually sucks. Ditto the metal sludge that was posted.

And only a retarded person would put this fluff in the same realm as art music. Wake up folks!

I am tempted to agree with James, but I guess I should listen to the music first.

[Rinaldo]

This whole hipster phenomena reminds me of something Chesterton wrote in his book "heretics":

Yeah, these young wannabes like Michael Gira or Scott Walker, who do these hipster kids think they are? O tempora, o mores!

This thread's gonna be fun.

[NJ Joe]

I'm going to post non-classical music that I enjoy on my own terms and that is 'new' by the simple definition of 'not released years / decades ago'. Feel free to jump in with whatever fresh stuff you find worthy.

I own the Swans album and like what I've heard of it so far, but I've yet to listen to it in its entirety.

I've recently been getting into this band Alt-J, and their 2014 release This Is All Yours.

Here's a track off it, Hunger of the Pine.  And yes, it contains a Miley Cyrus sample.

https://www.youtube.com/v/Vk-GJDlAYVA

[Mirror Image]

The only thing 'current' I've been listening to is John Zorn. Other than Zorn, I've been listening to oldies.

[ibanezmonster]

If it is new that you want, new you shall get:

https://www.youtube.com/v/U4GXNzom6ik

Yeeeeeeeeeeeessss!!! 


The whole album is so great that I'm never sure which song is my favorite. It took me a few years of many repeated listenings to appreciate everything going on in the album, since it didn't immediately click at first.

A few favorite bits:
6:29- the rhythm guitars charge forward like giant clunky machines smashing buildings while the lead guitar plays a few enigmatic notes
19:12- pretty much the same description here
35:09- such a dizzying rhythm guitar to listen to... song just charges forward to the end at this point, such perfectly tasty atonal notes
41:48- the end of Pravus just conjures up dark clouds and the apocalypse and stuff. Though the ending of I really does a better job at that.
47:30- god, this is HEEEAAAVVVVYYYYYYY 

The soundtrack to unbridled power and total world domination to rule the world with, definitely.

https://www.youtube.com/v/Y_SttMXaNnA


Also, the best of what came from the tons of bands they influenced- Animals As Leaders' The Joy of Motion (2014).

https://www.youtube.com/v/lbA3jxab4A0&list=PLH22-xSMERQpG4M9HshhXUJ9OKMNlwU8T

[Purusha]

I admire artists like Zappa to a certain degree, in the popular music landscape, rock culture (within which he gained prominence & mainly operated) he stands out like a genius .. but if you take him and cast him into the the art music world (aka western classical tradition) he's truly mickey mouse in comparison to that stuff, insignificant. Much of his work either way, is a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing.

Boulez considered him to be a "serious" composer in all effects. He even went so far as to conduct some of his music.

[NJ Joe]

Boulez considered him to be a "serious" composer in all effects. He even went so far as to conduct some of his music.

Yes, the fact that Zappa sent scores to Boulez, who indeed took them and Zappa seriously, and who in turn commissioned a piece (The Perfect Stranger) and conducted and recorded it with his Ensemble InterContemporain, bears testament to this.

Also the fact that someone of Boulez' stature actually paid attention to Zappa, even placing his music on a program alongside, I believe, Elliot Carter, to me, validates Zappa's stature as a composer of serious music.  And of course my validation comes from listening to albums such as The Perfect Stranger, London Symphony Orchestra, Yellow Shark, Civilization Phase III, Lumpy Money, Everything Is Healing Nicely, Ensemble Modern Plays Zappa, and Orchestral Favorites.

[NJ Joe]

Listening to albums doesn't validate anything, let's be real. Zappa had paid a lot of lip service to Boulez prior .. Boulez was aware of this, and for Boulez it was a kind gesture to accept Zappa's request to conduct a few works, they were poorly received in serious circles, and they never did anything together again. That's the truth.

And Zappa was pulled back to this world only when the Ensemble Modern came to him when he was dying of cancer to play some of his stuff. They recorded more of his music later to commemorate the collaboration, it wasn't as successful as the swan song Yellow Shark events. Everything Is Healing is just nostalgic subpar archival documentation/rehearsal of the ilk Zappa often issued .. hardly substantial, or even good.

Zappa doesn't have a stature within serious composition .. never had, and still doesn't. To think that he does is a fallacy.

We can agree to disagree, James.

[NJ Joe]

Speaking as an admirer of Zappa myself .. you can disagree with the clear view facts and the reality, but with some more exploring and experience under your belt you should hear & see what I am saying perfectly. It's no bold or shocking revelation I am making either btw. He's certainly not one of the heavyweights, not even close.

Nobody ever said he was one of the heavyweights.  We were discussing whether or not Boulez took Zappa seriously as a composer.  You're skeptical of this. Your opinion is noted.

Listening to albums doesn't validate anything, let's be real.

but with some more exploring and experience under your belt you should hear & see what I am saying perfectly.

Okay then.