What's your favourite aspect of classical music?

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ComposerOfAvantGarde

What is it? What do you like most about classical music?

For me, I love how there is an incredible amount of information one can learn in a broad range of topics: history and biographies, physics, philosophy etc. but what I most love about classical music is learning about What a Composer Does and How S/he Does it. This comes closest to understanding the mind of a composer when doing what they're most famous for doing, and how this translates into the Sound We Hear.

On that last point, I love listening to music as well. Especially when there is a score available. :)

North Star

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Florestan

Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on January 14, 2016, 01:04:51 PM
For me, I love how there is an incredible amount of information one can learn in a broad range of topics: history and biographies, physics, philosophy etc.

Hah! Hear, hear, Monsieur Croche!


My favourite aspect of classical music is melody! It doesn´t have to be hummable, it doesn´t have to be memorable --- it just has to be.

No melody, no music for me!




"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: Florestan on January 14, 2016, 01:40:44 PM
Hah! Hear, hear, Monsieur Croche!
All the extra-musical things aren't the music itself, but things that are certainly related in some way or another. They're part of the same universe. ;)

Florestan

Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on January 14, 2016, 02:17:40 PM
All the extra-musical things aren't the music itself, but things that are certainly related in some way or another. They're part of the same universe. ;)

Of course! Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto!
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James

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some guy

Classical music has aspects?

No one ever tells me anything.

Anyway, I can't think of any one thing about any kind of music that is not inextricably bound up with some other thing about that kind of music.

Though, I must say, I thought North Star's response was spot on. I'd make the noun plural is all. :)

prémont

Favorite aspect? Ooh .. there are many:

Counterpoint, rhythm, harmoni, the sound of beautiful instruments and/or voices to name a few.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

vandermolen

The emotional aspect of it. The (sometimes) sense of communicating with the composer.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

some guy

Emotions are ubiquitous and inevitable.

(Kind of like sounds from that other thread, eh?)

Anyway, I have always found the easiest way to communicate* with composers is to hang out with them, go to bars, go to their houses or hotels, mingle in lobbies of concerts, stuff like that.

*Disclaimer: I myself would never use the word "communicate."

Talk. Chat. Maybe even converse. No. Probably not converse. Lotta Latin in the ol' English language. Most of the more pretentious words. You know, like "pretentious." And ubiquitous. And inevitable. Damn. hard to avoid those pesky things, eh? (Ack. "Avoid's another one.)

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: vandermolen on January 15, 2016, 08:55:23 AM
The emotional aspect of it. The (sometimes) sense of communicating with the composer.
Is it like some kind of metaphysical experience then? 8)

Christo

Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on January 16, 2016, 02:37:40 AMIs it like some kind of metaphysical experience then? 8)

Of course it is. There is, BTW, very little physical in music.  ;D
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

prémont

Quote from: Christo on January 16, 2016, 02:58:57 AM
Of course it is. There is, BTW, very little physical in music.  ;D

May be it is just me, but I often find, that my heart is beating in the rhythm of the music I am listening to.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Florestan

Quote from: Christo on January 16, 2016, 02:58:57 AM
There is, BTW, very little physical in music.  ;D

For mere listeners, probably not. For performers, though, it´s a different matter altogether.  :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

North Star

Quote from: Christo on January 16, 2016, 02:58:57 AM
Of course it is. There is, BTW, very little physical in music.  ;D
Acoustics is a branch of physics, you know.
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71 dB

Quote from: Christo on January 16, 2016, 02:58:57 AM
Of course it is. There is, BTW, very little physical in music.  ;D
Everything is physical. What happens in our brain when we enjoy (or suffer) music is physical.
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In a published interview, I said: "Music starts where words stop." I love how music can express things that are beyond words.


Additionally, I will be the first to admit that I do love the alleged aloofness and snobbishness that classical music afford.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

James

Quote from: some guy on January 16, 2016, 02:06:58 AMAnyway, I have always found the easiest way to communicate* with composers is to hang out with them, go to bars, go to their houses or hotels, mingle in lobbies of concerts, stuff like that.

Boring. I'd rather listen to a great musician express their deep creative side through their music. It's much more special and I learn a lot more and am often moved a lot more too. Beyond words.
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Christo

Quote from: 71 dB on January 16, 2016, 05:06:31 AMEverything is physical. What happens in our brain when we enjoy (or suffer) music is physical.

No! It isn't. And: it isn't in our brain.  :)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

North Star

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