Who's The Greatest Mahlerian On GMG?

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Sergeant Rock

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Quote from: Cato on October 18, 2016, 05:59:38 AM
Concerning the topic: Bruckner led me to Mahler in the early 1960's, and I recall looking desperately for - and not always finding - a recording


My problem with hearing Mahler in the mid to late 60s was not only the cost of LPs (if there were Mahler recordings on budget labels, they weren't stocked in the small classical sections in my area) but the lack of records in the Barberton library. They only had Klemp's 2 and Lenny's 1. I did own an intriguing snippet of the 10th (the great "Alma" string melody in the finale, included on a Columbia sampler LP that had cost a buck) but it wasn't until 1971 that I had the means to start a serious Mahler collection. You were way ahead of me  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Cato

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 18, 2016, 06:25:55 AM

My problem with hearing Mahler in the mid to late 60s was not only the cost of LPs (if there were Mahler recordings on budget labels, they weren't stocked in the small classical sections in my area) but the lack of records in the Barberton library. They only had Klemp's 2 and Lenny's 1. I did own an intriguing snippet of the 10th (the great "Alma" string melody in the finale, included on a Columbia sampler LP that had cost a buck) but it wasn't until 1971 that I had the means to start a serious Mahler collection. You were way ahead of me  ;D

Sarge

Dayton's library - looking back at it now - was phenomenal.  Whoever the music librarian was, s/he had no fear of buying Stockhausen, Boulez, Messiaen, etc. and basically the entire DGG and Columbia catalogs!  The library also had a marvelous collection of scores, which I used very often. 
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Cato on October 18, 2016, 08:08:16 AM
Dayton's library - looking back at it now - was phenomenal.

The difference in the life of a poor village (country) boy compared to the privileged city slicker  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

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Cato

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 18, 2016, 09:38:05 AM
Ah, the fleshpots of Dayton!

Heh-heh!  :o ??? :D

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 18, 2016, 06:25:55 AM

My problem with hearing Mahler in the mid to late 60s was not only the cost of LPs (if there were Mahler recordings on budget labels, they weren't stocked in the small classical sections in my area) but the lack of records in the Barberton library. They only had Klemp's 2 and Lenny's 1. I did own an intriguing snippet of the 10th (the great "Alma" string melody in the finale, included on a Columbia sampler LP that had cost a buck) but it wasn't until 1971 that I had the means to start a serious Mahler collection. You were way ahead of me  ;D

Sarge


I do not recall the name of the company, but a mail-order firm offered the complete DGG Bruckner symphonies (the Eugen Jochum set).  It cost about $40.00, a large amount back then (and also today, in my opinion!), but I still rather vividly recall the day it arrived! 0:) 

Bliss ensued! 0:)

"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Papy Oli

Quote from: Brian on October 17, 2016, 07:09:21 AM
I'm not to be trusted on this - but my vote is for Olivier. :)

Thanks Brian. The cheque is in the post  :laugh:

Quote from: Mirror Image on October 17, 2016, 07:10:29 AM
Whatever happened to Olivier?
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 18, 2016, 02:01:08 AM
Dude! Where ya been? 8)

I have been scouting the world to try and find a great bronze bust of Gustav for my mantelpiece  :P

(serious answer: Reached a complete burnout on classical music since the beginning of the year with the (relative) accumulation of CD boxsets last year that killed the enjoyment of it all. Only been dabbling back into it in the last few weeks with a couple of CD's a week. Main Pro: mind and ears refreshed and rediscovering the collection and works should make it enjoyable again.) 

Olivier

Papy Oli

Olivier

Sergeant Rock

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Parsifal

My acquaintance for Mahler started with this LP.



I was enthralled. The ninth remains my favorite work by Mahler.

Staking no claim myself, I'd say Sarge is the dean of Mahlerians on the board.

Parsifal

Quote from: Papy Oli on October 18, 2016, 11:28:14 AM(serious answer: Reached a complete burnout on classical music since the beginning of the year with the (relative) accumulation of CD boxsets last year that killed the enjoyment of it all. Only been dabbling back into it in the last few weeks with a couple of CD's a week. Main Pro: mind and ears refreshed and rediscovering the collection and works should make it enjoyable again.)

When I get a box set, I consider my obligation to it fulfilled when I've listened to one disc.  For just that reason.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Scarpia on October 18, 2016, 11:44:57 AM
My acquaintance for Mahler started with this LP.



I was enthralled. The ninth remains my favorite work by Mahler.

Is that the 1980 studio or the 1982 live? I don't have Karajan's M9 on LP but do have the '82 performance on CD, my favorite M9.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Parsifal

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 18, 2016, 12:17:45 PM
Is that the 1980 studio or the 1982 live? I don't have Karajan's M9 on LP but do have the '82 performance on CD, my favorite M9.

Sarge

That's the studio recording released in '80 (recorded in '79). I preferred it to the '82 (which was the only one available on CD for many years) perhaps because of imprinting.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Scarpia on October 18, 2016, 12:26:42 PM
That's the studio recording released in '80 (recorded in '79).

If I didn't already love the '82 (and didn't have 30 other M9s), I might be tempted. But at my age, you just have to stop collecting  at some point ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Cato

Quote from: Scarpia on October 18, 2016, 11:44:57 AM

I was enthralled. The Ninth remains my favorite work by Mahler.


Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 18, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
If I didn't already love the '82 (and didn't have 30 other M9s), I might be tempted. But at my age, you just have to stop collecting  at some point ;D

Sarge

I once knew a priest who said that he had every recording of the Mahler Ninth, and who would attend any live concert with that work played within a boundary of Detroit to Cincinnati and Chicago to Pittsburgh.  (He lived in Toledo.)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Tritone

Quote from: Cato on October 18, 2016, 12:51:33 PM
I once knew a priest who said that he had every recording of the Mahler Ninth, and who would attend any live concert with that work played within a boundary of Detroit to Cincinnati and Chicago to Pittsburgh.  (He lived in Toledo.)

He must have a HUGE garage.

Parsifal

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 18, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
If I didn't already love the '82 (and didn't have 30 other M9s), I might be tempted. But at my age, you just have to stop collecting  at some point ;D

Sarge

They're not that different.

But stop collecting? Can that be?  Makes me imagine an alternate ending to Strauss' Four Last Songs:

QuoteO vast, tranquil peace,
so deep in the sunset!
How weary we are of collecting records--
Is this perhaps death?

Sorry to be maudlin.  ;D

Sergeant Rock

 
Quote from: Cato on October 18, 2016, 12:51:33 PM
I once knew a priest who said that he had every recording of the Mahler Ninth, and who would attend any live concert with that work played within a boundary of Detroit to Cincinnati and Chicago to Pittsburgh.  (He lived in Toledo.)

I wonder if he was in the audience when I heard Haitink conduct the M9 with the Cleveland at Severance in 1973.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Parsifal

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 18, 2016, 01:11:03 PM

I wonder if he was in the audience when I heard Haitink conduct the M9 with the Cleveland at Severance in 1973.

Gasp!

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Scarpia on October 18, 2016, 01:07:07 PM
But stop collecting? Can that be?  Makes me imagine an alternate ending to Strauss' Four Last Songs:

"Im Abendrot" just got personal  :laugh:

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Tritone on October 18, 2016, 12:56:26 PM
He must have a HUGE garage.

I could certainly use a spare garage at this point.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"