Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

[hpowders]

What worries me is what will happen to the US in 2025 after an incompetent politician is handed the reigns of the US.

You may not like Trump's personality, but he is putting the US on the way Bach to economic health after so many years of incompetent mismanagement.

Forget his personality. You aren't dating or marrying the dude.

Look at his achievements!! Removing stifling regulations on small businesses; lowering taxes; putting more money in peoples' pockets; lowest rates of unemployment among all ethnic groups; increasing wages; straightening out the unfair tariffs of other countries, china, in particular.

Trump has done a lot in 2 years. Look beyond his childish personality.

[Sydney Nova Scotia]

The rest of the World does not give a toss about the US economy (which usually means the rest of the world is going to get screwed even more by you guys anyway- Maccas/ Coke/ GM/ Ford this list goes on) but the fact the Trump is a D!ckhead, its just embarrassing that you guys have got a leader like that - and its not Trump that is or isn't saving your economy its the people behind him......... always has been Leaders are just figureheads and that's were he fails the head test............

[TheGSMoeller]

Forget his personality. You aren't dating or marrying the dude.

Look at his achievements!! Removing stifling regulations on small businesses; lowering taxes; putting more money in peoples' pockets; lowest rates of unemployment among all ethnic groups; increasing wages; straightening out the unfair tariffs of other countries, china, in particular.

Trump has done a lot in 2 years. Look beyond his childish personality.

Trump's childish personalty plays a big part in why this country is so divided. I also noticed in your list of Trump accomplishments you only mentioned money-related ones, which seems to be his only motivation.

[SimonNZ]

At this point both Ford and Kavanaugh and both their families have been targeted with death threats.

While I don't approve of death threats directed at anyone I'd still have to say that there's a fundamental difference between expressions of outrage directed at a sexual predator and of those directed at his victims for speaking out.

[SimonNZ]

What worries me is what will happen to the US in 2025 after an incompetent politician is handed the reigns of the US.

You may not like Trump's personality, but he is putting the US on the way Bach to economic health after so many years of incompetent mismanagement.

Forget his personality. You aren't dating or marrying the dude.

Look at his achievements!! Removing stifling regulations on small businesses; lowering taxes; putting more money in peoples' pockets; lowest rates of unemployment among all ethnic groups; increasing wages; straightening out the unfair tariffs of other countries, china, in particular.

Trump has done a lot in 2 years. Look beyond his childish personality.

It's not just his personality, it's his total ignorance on every issue.

And race-baiting and attacks on the press and those on his extensive enemies list goes well beyond mere "childish personality"

[Daverz]

Geez, at least with zb you get the puzzle of figuring out which Nazi websites she got her latest talking points from.  This new guy is just a wild-eyed cultist.

[SimonNZ]

Or is just stirring the pot.

[SimonNZ]

The rest of the World does not give a toss about the US economy

Speak for yourself. Or better yet don't.

[Sydney Nova Scotia]

Speak for yourself. Or better yet don't.

Go tend your sheep.............

[Karl Henning]

Just a note that we've pointed this out, here in the thread, for months:

Trump is the laughingstock of the world

[Karl Henning]

Just a note that we've pointed this out, here in the thread, for months:

Trump is the laughingstock of the world

He stuck to his teleprompter, squinting and using a sing-song delivery to read the words adviser Stephen Miller had written for him, adding occasional banal grace notes: "Far greater!" "Just can't do it!" "Not good!" The foreign leaders in the room shook their heads, shrugged, smiled and whispered to each other. They applauded other leaders when introduced and during their addresses; Trump didn't get any (except at the moment when they were laughing at him) until the polite ovation when he finished.

[Christo]

He stuck to his teleprompter, squinting and using a sing-song delivery to read the words adviser Stephen Miller had written for him, adding occasional banal grace notes: "Far greater!" "Just can't do it!" "Not good!" The foreign leaders in the room shook their heads, shrugged, smiled and whispered to each other. They applauded other leaders when introduced and during their addresses; Trump didn't get any (except at the moment when they were laughing at him) until the polite ovation when he finished.

The American president reminding us of Romanian president Nicolae Ceaușescu during his last speech, live on TV: thinking that the protesters were cheering him.

[Karl Henning]

The American president reminding us of Romanian president Nicolae Ceaușescu during his last speech, live on TV: thinking that the protesters were cheering him.

Trump is so used to the Safe Spaces to which he normally confines his public appearances.

[Florestan]

The American president reminding us of Romanian president Nicolae Ceaușescu during his last speech, live on TV: thinking that the protesters were cheering him.

Incorrect. He realized the crowd were booing him, therefore he responded by announcing that "The Party" has just decided to raise the minimum wage. He was indeed delusional but not in the sense you indicated.

[Karl Henning]

An old friend of mine in California shares this observation:

I never heard ONE person ridicule ANY men for coming forward with allegations about Catholic priest molestation after 35 years.  Not one.

[71 dB]

What worries me is what will happen to the US in 2025 after an incompetent politician is handed the reigns of the US.

You may not like Trump's personality, but he is putting the US on the way Bach to economic health after so many years of incompetent mismanagement.

Forget his personality. You aren't dating or marrying the dude.

Look at his achievements!! Removing stifling regulations on small businesses; lowering taxes; putting more money in peoples' pockets; lowest rates of unemployment among all ethnic groups; increasing wages; straightening out the unfair tariffs of other countries, china, in particular.

Trump has done a lot in 2 years. Look beyond his childish personality.

Trump's personality is least of the problems. His policies are the same old corporatism spiced up with mean tweets.

Lead in the tap water doesn't disappear making childish tweets, or giving the top 1 % massive tax cuts, or increasing the military budget by 100 billion dollars, or building walls to Mexican border, or increasing drone strikes in the middle East by 500 %, or handcuffing the EPA with oil industry friendly deregulation, or separation children from their parents and caging them, or ignating trade wars with senseless tariffs, or any other thing Trump has been doing. Lead in the tap water is dealt with allogating money on infrastructure work and changing the old water pipes with new clean pipes.

But hey, you where talking about the economic health. The economy isn't good in the US just because Trump and Fox News say so. The top 1 % has it good for sure. The tax cuts and all! The rest 99 % are not that good. Wages have been stagnant since the 80's. Healthcare costs are going up thanks to Trump sabotaging Obamacare. Student loan cricis, credit card depth,... most americans aren't doing well at all and the bubble is about to burst at any moment because this level of income inequality is unsustainable.

But but... Stocks are high! Yeah, thanks to the tax cuts and buy backs of stocks, but that doesn't help single mothers in Michigan struggling to feed their children who suffer lead in the tap water. Most americans simply don't own stocks so they don't benefit at all. Wages are not up for normal people. Did Trump increase minimum wage to $15? No, he didn't. The new jobs are low paying jobs. People are underemployed and they can hardly manage by. What is a job good for if it doesn't pay enough? In 2017 three million people lost their healthcare! You don't think that's bad? Of course Fox News doesn't tell you that, but I do.

Keep believing Trump and Fox News all you want, but don't say you where not warned when the bubble bursts. Trump in his utter ignorance and incompetense is making the bubble only bigger.

[Karl Henning]

More of the flaccid wimp:

President Trump is afraid to fire people

No wonder Rod Rosenstein still had a job at the end of Monday.

By Elizabeth Spiers

As Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein was being ferried to the White House on Monday, where frenetic (and, apparently, premature) news reports said he would be fired or forced to resign, President Trump was in New York, ensconced in Trump Tower, where he could avoid having to look Rosenstein in the eye while delivering bad news. If Rosenstein had been fired, it's unlikely that Trump would have done it himself. For a guy whose television brand was largely constructed around telling people "You're fired!" in the most dramatic and direct way possible, real-life President Trump manages to studiously avoid any interaction that might be confrontational or require him to take responsibility for a bad hiring decision.

When James B. Comey was fired as FBI director, it was via letter, delivered by Trump's then-bodyguard, Keith Schiller, while Comey was on the other side of the country. Trump couldn't even be bothered to call Comey or can him in any way that might have exposed him to a response. (When Schiller left the White House, he reportedly got a $15,000-a-month contract from the Republican National Committee.)

For months, Trump has been bashing Attorney General Jeff Sessions, blaming his decision to recuse himself from the Russia investigation for the misfortune Robert S. Mueller III has visited on the White House under Rosenstein's supervision. The abuse mostly comes on Twitter or in statements to the media, instead of in person, where Sessions could push back. Trump seems to believe that if he does this enough, Sessions will get the hint and resign of his own accord, saving him the trouble of having a tough conversation and giving him a way to claim that Sessions's departure wasn't his fault. So far, it hasn't worked.

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[bwv 1080]

Trump's personality is least of the problems. His policies are the same old corporatism spiced up with mean tweets.

Lead in the tap water doesn't disappear making childish tweets, or giving the top 1 % massive tax cuts, or increasing the military budget by 100 billion dollars, or building walls to Mexican border, or increasing drone strikes in the middle East by 500 %, or handcuffing the EPA with oil industry friendly deregulation, or separation children from their parents and caging them, or ignating trade wars with senseless tariffs, or any other thing Trump has been doing. Lead in the tap water is dealt with allogating money on infrastructure work and changing the old water pipes with new clean pipes.

But hey, you where talking about the economic health. The economy isn't good in the US just because Trump and Fox News say so. The top 1 % has it good for sure. The tax cuts and all! The rest 99 % are not that good. Wages have been stagnant since the 80's. Healthcare costs are going up thanks to Trump sabotaging Obamacare. Student loan cricis, credit card depth,... most americans aren't doing well at all and the bubble is about to burst at any moment because this level of income inequality is unsustainable.

But but... Stocks are high! Yeah, thanks to the tax cuts and buy backs of stocks, but that doesn't help single mothers in Michigan struggling to feed their children who suffer lead in the tap water. Most americans simply don't own stocks so they don't benefit at all. Wages are not up for normal people. Did Trump increase minimum wage to $15? No, he didn't. The new jobs are low paying jobs. People are underemployed and they can hardly manage by. What is a job good for if it doesn't pay enough? In 2017 three million people lost their healthcare! You don't think that's bad? Of course Fox News doesn't tell you that, but I do.

Keep believing Trump and Fox News all you want, but don't say you where not warned when the bubble bursts. Trump in his utter ignorance and incompetense is making the bubble only bigger.

Median household income only surpassed its inflation-adjusted late 90s peak last year and has continued to grow.  Unemployment is near an all time low - so the evidence refutes your basic premise there.

[BasilValentine]

Michael Avenatti has made good on his promise: His client, Julie Swetnick, the third accuser of Brett Kavanaugh, has come forward and has submitted a sworn affidavit to the Senate Judiciary Committee. She claims she was drugged and gang raped at a party attended by Kavanaugh and Mark Judge, that Kavanaugh and Judge on other such occasions attempted to drug girls in order to take advantage of them, and that K groped, humped and otherwise verbally and physically abused girls at these parties; "He was a mean drunk." She does not accuse Kavanaugh of raping her, but neither does she claim he didn't. She might not know. Maybe after the fifth or sixth rapist they all run together?

There have got to be scores of witnesses to these and similar events and it's likely the FBI could find and interview them. Will the republicans on the committee care? Or is this lying scumbag going to end up on the Supreme Court?   

[Ghost of Baron Scarpia]

Median household income only surpassed its inflation-adjusted late 90s peak last year and has continued to grow.  Unemployment is near an all time low - so the evidence refutes your basic premise there.

Median household income has just recovered, but GDP per capita is up ~20% from the pre-crisis levels. That is where the problem is. Economic output is growing at a healthy pace but the typical American earning salary or wages has not seen any substantial gains.

Unemployment may be near an all-time low, but labor participation is nowhere near its highest levels. People are increasingly dropping out of the labor market because they find no place in it.

The U.S. economy is moving in a worrying direction. There is a labor surplus and U.S. employers have no motivation to pass their increasing profits to workers.