Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

Started by kishnevi, November 09, 2016, 06:04:39 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Christo

Quote from: SimonNZ on November 16, 2018, 09:44:09 PM
Well...he claims to have filled in a written questionnaire and then put the paper in a drawer, not sent it in.

So I guess now he can say "I've answered Meuller's questions" and it is kinda-sorta literally true. In his head.
Do we have any proof that he can (properly) write at all? I don't think so: he's just talking nonsense.
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

milk

Quote from: Christo on November 16, 2018, 10:24:45 PM
Do we have any proof that he can (properly) write at all? I don't think so: he's just talking nonsense.
He brags like a child that it was easy to write answers.

71 dB

Quote from: Christo on November 16, 2018, 10:24:45 PM
Do we have any proof that he can (properly) write at all?

At least he proudly shows to the World whenever he has written his name to sign a bill...

Quote from: milk on November 16, 2018, 11:44:17 PM
He brags like a child that it was easy to write answers.

Almost as easy as fixing the healthcare system and winning trade wars...
Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW July 2025 "Liminal Feelings"

BasilValentine

Quote from: milk on November 16, 2018, 11:44:17 PM
He brags like a child that it was easy to write answers.

He bragged about passing the dementia test! — identifying a picture of a camel and such — so this is hardly surprising.

drogulus

Quote from: amw on November 16, 2018, 04:51:11 PM
Given what happened to Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, etc, that's not particularly reassuring >.>

     It would not reassure me if peacemongers really couldn't fight wars, or warmongers couldn't make peace. When I vote for President I'm aware that I'm choosing a decision maker, not making a decision about war or peace in the abstract.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:136.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/136.0
      
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:142.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/142.0

Mullvad 14.5.5

bwv 1080

Now with Sessions gone, Trump announced support for some much needed prison reforms


The new legislation would eliminate "stacking" provisions that result in offenders serving consecutive sentences for crimes committed using firearms; shorten mandatory minimum sentences, including reverting life imprisonment to a 25-year minimum for those convicted under the "three strikes" provision; and expand the "drug safety valve" to reduce the number of nonviolent drug offenders receiving mandatory minimum sentences.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/11/14/politics/trump-prison-reform/index.html


Todd

Quote from: bwv 1080 on November 17, 2018, 07:35:07 AMNow with Sessions gone, Trump announced support for some much needed prison reforms


Hopefully, this goes somewhere.  Obviously, Trump won't do anything to dismantle the unbridled American war machine*, so whittling away at the gruesome prison system that abuses state power to unjustly destroy lives by the hundreds of thousands is probably the next best thing to reduce the coercive power of the state.


* How could he?  Congress was just warned that there is a "crisis of national security" and that the US military could lose a war with Russia or China.  Oh noes!  Time to up that DOD budget.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

amw

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2018, 07:57:37 AM

Hopefully, this goes somewhere.  Obviously, Trump won't do anything to dismantle the unbridled American war machine*, so whittling away at the gruesome prison system that abuses state power to unjustly destroy lives by the hundreds of thousands is probably the next best thing to reduce the coercive power of the state.


* How could he?  Congress was just warned that there is a "crisis of national security" and that the US military could lose a war with Russia or China.  Oh noes!  Time to up that DOD budget.
I was surprised to see this new one-week focus on criminal justice reform from the man who still thinks the Central Park Five deserve the death penalty. I imagine Congress is hoping he'll forget all about it next week so they don't have to do anything that would upset their private prison and police union donors.

Todd

Quote from: amw on November 17, 2018, 02:13:21 PMI was surprised to see this new one-week focus on criminal justice reform from the man who still thinks the Central Park Five deserve the death penalty.


If he succeeded, it would neutralize a Dem issue, but Congress won't be doing nothing substantive for the next two years.  Well, unless one counts hearings and investigations that cannot remove the president from office.  Maybe a particularly crafty Dem pol will be able to use the delightful political tumult to come to win back the White House.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Daverz

This map is amazing:



Orange County, California, the birthplace of modern conservatism, will send zero Republicans to Congress in 2018.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/16/18098944/orange-county-blue-wave-2018

Bonus image: Republican nightmares


BasilValentine

Quote from: Todd on November 17, 2018, 04:28:22 PM

If he succeeded, it would neutralize a Dem issue, but Congress won't be doing nothing substantive for the next two years.  Well, unless one counts hearings and investigations that cannot remove the president from office.  Maybe a particularly crafty Dem pol will be able to use the delightful political tumult to come to win back the White House.

So, no optimism about the possibility of bipartisan legislation on infrastructure or immigration?

amw

"Bipartisanship" tends to produce some of the worst US laws, eg the NDAA, Patriot Act reauthorisation, etc—maybe a handful of exceptions on issues that are much harder to vote against (eg VAWA). Most good laws in US history have been passed by the more progressive of the two parties after severe obstruction from the more conservative of the two parties. For example you needed to wait until there were 67 senators who wanted to pass the Civil Rights Act because the conservatives (who were Southern Democrats at the time) kept blocking it; it wasn't bipartisan in the modern sense of the word because it was almost exclusively the progressives (of both parties) who voted for it and exclusively the conservatives (mostly of one party) who opposed it.

A good immigration bill would involve the abolition of DHS and its component agencies, mass amnesty & a much easier path to legal immigration and citizenship. A "bipartisan" immigration bill would do none of those things and probably make life materially worse for many people. (And the environment, if it involved building a border wall.)

Todd

Quote from: BasilValentine on November 18, 2018, 03:16:19 AMSo, no optimism about the possibility of bipartisan legislation on infrastructure or immigration?


You misunderstood my post.  I'm very optimistic about the coming gridlock.  It's what the country needs.  If it takes hollow, ineffectual Dem grandstanding in Congress to achieve that, so be it.


Quote from: amw on November 18, 2018, 03:40:18 AMFor example you needed to wait until there were 67 senators who wanted to pass the Civil Rights Act because the conservatives (who were Southern Democrats at the time) kept blocking it


It also needed to wait until a golden boy president was killed and a masterful former senator (and Southern Democrat) who was not afraid to use his power to twist arms was in office to push through the martyr's agenda.


Quote from: amw on November 18, 2018, 03:40:18 AMA good immigration bill would involve the abolition of DHS and its component agencies


This will not happen.  Once established, federal government agencies don't go away, except some established during mass mobilization wars (ie, the Civil War, WWI, and WWII).  And what member of Congress, even a putatively "progressive" one (outside of some 75%+ undemocratic Democrat districts), wants to go back to his or her district or state and explain why they dismantled part of the national security apparatus which keeps us safe from various and sundry threats?  Oh, yes, and then there's the DHS budget of ~$50 billion, which provides jobs in certain areas.  DHS is here to stay, and some of its component agencies, meaning probably ICE most of all, have roots that stretch back to the 19th Century.  I suppose its name could be changed.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

drogulus


     Trump knows Whittaker, and yet doesn't know him. It's a very arms length situation.

     
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:136.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/136.0
      
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:142.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/142.0

Mullvad 14.5.5

SimonNZ

One of today's tweets:

"So funny to see little Adam Schitt (D-CA) talking about the fact that Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker was not approved by the Senate, but not mentioning the fact that Bob Mueller (who is highly conflicted) was not approved by the Senate!"

In case you miss it at first glance: "Schiff" has been changed to "Schitt".

Thats the level he's working on.

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

SimonNZ


SimonNZ

Architect of bin Laden raid: Trump 'threatens the Constitution' when he attacks the media

Retired Adm. William McRaven on Sunday stood by his previous statement that President Donald Trump's attacks on the news media represent "the greatest threat to democracy" after the President dismissed him as a "Hillary Clinton backer" in an interview that aired on Fox News.

"I did not back Hillary Clinton or anyone else," McRaven, who oversaw the operation that killed Osama bin Laden, told CNN. "I am a fan of President Obama and President George W. Bush, both of whom I worked for. I admire all presidents, regardless of their political party, who uphold the dignity of the office and who use that office to bring the nation together in challenging times."

"I stand by my comment that the President's attack on the media is the greatest threat to our democracy in my lifetime," McRaven said, referencing remarks he made about Trump last year. "When you undermine the people's right to a free press and freedom of speech and expression, then you threaten the Constitution and all for which it stands."


Trump attacks retired Navy SEAL Admiral Bill McRaven, suggests he should have gotten bin Laden sooner


SimonNZ

"According to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, it was the 40th interview Trump has done with Fox News since taking office compared to three with ABC, four with CBS, 5 with NBC and none with CNN."